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svetlano 05-18-2010 08:28 AM

Steam
 
Hello all,

One simple question.
Will Din's Curse be relased on Steam ?

Shadow 05-18-2010 09:01 AM

I'm about to start trying to get DC on Steam, so we will see.

svetlano 05-18-2010 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Shadow (Post 13979)
I'm about to start trying to get DC on Steam, so we will see.

Hi Shadow, guess you are one of the developers.
I'd like to insert it in my steam library, it's handy to have all games grouped togheter.
Let's hope you will have success ;)

Jorlen 05-18-2010 09:31 AM

I'm sure being on Steam will bump up the sales. If there's a forum section I'll be sure to help spread some positive impressions. Good luck!

Gorgarax 05-18-2010 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by svetlano (Post 13980)
Hi Shadow, guess you are one of the developers.

For the record, shadow is THE developer.

Teddy 05-18-2010 12:00 PM

To be honest, if it wasn't for having "Diablo 3" as a keyword in my daily Google News list I would have never heard about DC. Advertising is currently holding back this game substantially. I never heard of the previous games either, and I love ARPG's.

I first saw Torchlight (another well done ARPG) at PAX Prime 2009, and played that game to death and it's doing very well on Steam.

Steam should be a good advertising platform for Soldak and get more eyes on DC.

udm 05-18-2010 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Gorgarax (Post 13986)
For the record, shadow is THE developer.

Emphasis on the ;)

Delilah Rehm 05-18-2010 03:59 PM

We'd love to get all of our games on Steam, but they're kind of picky so we can't guarantee Din's will make the cut. I hope it does though. Steam is amazing, offering a unique customer experience. No other portal comes close!

Teddy 05-18-2010 04:22 PM

I've seen some of the slag that appears on Steam, and while not having played DoP or KU (only heard about DC a week ago), I can't see any reason why DC would be rejected.

Mind you the only sucky part is i have a pile of steam games, and short of buying DC again I won't gain the advantages of a steam version (ie in-game steam chat). I'm not sure how voice is handled, but it would awesome if steam's voice chat could somehow be worked in. Hell, that alone might be worth re-purchasing the steam version.

Jorlen 05-18-2010 04:41 PM

Honestly, if DC doesn't make the cut, let us know, and we'll bombard them with letters.

Steam has some great games, but they also have GARBAGE. When I say garbage, I do mean broken buggy games that 95% of people agree were a waste of cash.

Din's Curse is most certainly NOT in that category and deserves to be on Steam. Seriously.

torikamal 05-18-2010 06:36 PM

I think one of the advantages that DC will have is that it can also be released simultaneously on the Mac side of Steam and I'm sure that they will be all about releasing stuff on the Mac Side since it just opened.

If DC gets on, I'd be surprised if Kivi's Underworld doesn't make it on because Steam loves to do developer library sales.

Here's to hoping DC gets on Steam.

Also, if for some reason they don't want DC, you can be like...uh...but you let in Hazen!

svetlano 05-18-2010 07:27 PM

Depths of Peril is there, why they shouldn't allow DC?

I think you will soon have a Soldak library.

udm 05-19-2010 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Delilah Rehm (Post 14009)
We'd love to get all of our games on Steam, but they're kind of picky so we can't guarantee Din's will make the cut. I hope it does though. Steam is amazing, offering a unique customer experience. No other portal comes close!

As a consumer, though, I have to say I prefer Impulse :)

Kruztee 05-19-2010 06:22 AM

I'd buy a 3rd copy if DC ever got on Steam. I really like it as a way of keeping many of my games together and organised.

dnuggs40 05-19-2010 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delilah Rehm (Post 14009)
We'd love to get all of our games on Steam, but they're kind of picky so we can't guarantee Din's will make the cut. I hope it does though. Steam is amazing, offering a unique customer experience. No other portal comes close!

I think DC should have no issues making the cut...considering STEAM approves half baked games like Hazen :p

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Originally Posted by Kruztee (Post 14027)
I'd buy a 3rd copy if DC ever got on Steam. I really like it as a way of keeping many of my games together and organised.

Completely agree. I used to be a bit weary of steam (and other digital platforms), but now it's where I primarily buy games. Even non-steam games I register the exe's to my games lists so I can launch them from steam.

Jorlen 05-19-2010 09:18 AM

I'll gift a copy of DC to a friend if it ends up on steam. So already you have a few sales guaranteed for your steam efforts lol ;)

svetlano 05-19-2010 10:14 AM

Please Shadow,
keep us updated on the deal ;)

Viliki 05-19-2010 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by dnuggs40 (Post 14031)
I think DC should have no issues making the cut...considering STEAM approves half baked games like Hazen :p



Completely agree. I used to be a bit weary of steam (and other digital platforms), but now it's where I primarily buy games. Even non-steam games I register the exe's to my games lists so I can launch them from steam.

Yes Hazen is a little scandalous, I bought it. :eek:

Anyway I'm worry to not contribute to make Steam an elephant that pressure the market. Also I don't like much how intrusive is Steam. But I can only admit the good points, like multi language support, the time spend in a game or no DVD/CD to insert. And the last move in Mac market is a blow pushing me change my mind more fully. Well, I also know the bad points like too intrusive, late patches or no guaranty they'll support all xp.

You seem have tested fully register external game into steam, what are the benefit? I was wondering if Steam also time the time spend in external games, it's a feature I really like even if I also don't like at all that this information is stored inside Steam and have no clear guaranty about those data.

dnuggs40 05-19-2010 11:57 AM

All it does is allow you to launch the games from your game list. It doesn't update them, allow to to download them, or anything like that. I guess it's an organizational thing.

Basically STEAM is my main "gaming command center" now, even for games external to it.

svetlano 05-19-2010 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Viliki (Post 14037)
I was wondering if Steam also time the time spend in external games, it's a feature I really like even if I also don't like at all that this information is stored inside Steam and have no clear guaranty about those data.

No, it doesn't track external games spent time.
And yes, i like this funcion too, it's like to have your whole gaming history at fingertips, either i like so mutch being able to reinstall a game without being forced to search Gamefiles, Dvds and patches around.
For this i'll skip buyng DC for the moment, even if enjoying the demo alot, i really want to start the full version but i'd prefer to do it on Steam.
I'll buy Dephts of Peril on Steam in the meantime the deal is being discussed to support Soldak for the moment.

udm 05-19-2010 04:03 PM

I bought DoP last time via BMTMicro, and asked Steven if he could install it into my Impulse account. He, and the folks at Impulse, very kindly did. This is why I had no hesitation about buying Din's during the beta period, as I know I can probably count on Soldak again. This is what I call service excellence :)

Shadow 05-19-2010 04:57 PM

Well I have at least contacted Valve about getting Din's Curse on Steam. We'll see how that goes.

svetlano 05-20-2010 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Shadow (Post 14048)
Well I have at least contacted Valve about getting Din's Curse on Steam. We'll see how that goes.

Well let's hope they accept it fast !
I bought in the meantime, Depths of Peril on Steam last night.
I had trouble stop playing it: amazing game !
Keep up the good work !

Viliki 05-20-2010 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by dnuggs40 (Post 14039)
All it does is allow you to launch the games from your game list. It doesn't update them, allow to to download them, or anything like that. I guess it's an organizational thing...

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Originally Posted by svetlano (Post 14040)
No, it doesn't track external games spent time.
And yes, i like this funcion too, it's like to have your whole gaming history at fingertips, ...

Thanks both for answer, but now I think of it, it's totally weird that I liked the game collection plus time tracking and could only imagine Steam for that.

That's totally basic stuff and a little app could do it much better and would not store information elsewhere.

It remind me I had a little tool that records meters done by the mouse so I had the sum of kilometers done after some time. Ha we knew have fun from little pleasures, that time is over. :)

svetlano 05-25-2010 03:56 AM

Well, in the end i decided to not wait for the Steam version and bought the game, loving it so mutch.
I see some minor aspect i would change though: like, for example the drop rate and quality of rare and very rare items.
I feel like they are dropping too mutch and their quality it's just average and very often it happens that i prefer to stick with green stuff.
I'd reduce the drop rate of those and make them stronger, more diversified, particular, and for example with some visual improvements like glowing , shadowing sparkling and so on, so when it happens you drop one, you really feel you got a beast of a item.
Let's say from what i've seen so far, that i'd do a mass items upgrade, insert more sets, actually, sometimes it feels like you are dropping tons of "more of the same" stuff.
I will discuss this better later when i'll be at least 30 hours of gameplay.
But as now, it is for me the only "complaint" i have with the game, and in my opinion in a Dungeon Crowler items add really a big value and keep the game fresh like the outstanding randomization of the world the game already has.

Jorlen 07-13-2010 10:18 AM

How's the steam situation coming along? I noticed Echalon: Book II is on there, and this may not be sound reasoning, but I figure if they (and many other indie devs) can make it there, so can Soldak with Din's Curse?

Shadow 07-13-2010 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jorlen (Post 15393)
How's the steam situation coming along? I noticed Echalon: Book II is on there, and this may not be sound reasoning, but I figure if they (and many other indie devs) can make it there, so can Soldak with Din's Curse?

I haven't heard back from them. I will bug them again soon.

Lelldorianx 07-14-2010 12:38 PM

Don't forget about GamersGate and D2D.

GamersGate is a fantastic platform for games... I love it ;)

Pheelon 07-14-2010 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Lelldorianx (Post 15417)
Don't forget about GamersGate and D2D.

GamersGate is a fantastic platform for games... I love it ;)

both are quite nice idd - but seeing as my favorite platform Impulse allready has Din's Curse i can live without ehm too ;)

udm 07-15-2010 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Lelldorianx (Post 15417)
Don't forget about GamersGate and D2D.

GamersGate is a fantastic platform for games... I love it ;)

Agree. For me, it's either GamersGate or Impulse. Not a huge fan of Steam, for me I use it out of necessitation rather than preference. GG on the other hand, now those guys have some fine support and they're so transparent about their stand on DRM - and actually live up to it - that it's hard not to like them.

Shadow 07-16-2010 05:37 PM

I will probably push some of the portals more next week again.

Lelldorianx 07-18-2010 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by udm (Post 15435)
and they're so transparent about their stand on DRM - and actually live up to it - that it's hard not to like them.

Yes! That's why I love sites like GG. They are totally open about DRM, even the ones using SecuROM :( are listed. I'd have to agree: Steam I use because (as lame as this sounds) everyone else does, but GG I use whenever possible.

duncandun 07-19-2010 12:53 AM

I recommend trying Impulse as well. Hits an audience that is both different and the same as steam.

udm 07-19-2010 10:15 AM

Already there ;)

Shadow 07-19-2010 10:38 AM

So far we have gotten Din's Curse on Mac Game Store and Impulse.

udm 07-22-2010 02:38 AM

Has Gamersgate responded yet?

Mivo 07-22-2010 07:01 AM

GG is actually the only one of the bigger services that I'd consider gettinggames from. Steam isn't my cup (but I know it's popular, so definitely worth getting DC on). I prefer buying directly, though (and that's how I purchased the three Soldak games, Torchlight, etc. too).

Shadow 07-23-2010 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by udm (Post 15523)
Has Gamersgate responded yet?

Actually they have, they are waiting on me.

Shadow 08-09-2010 03:58 PM

Well the guys over on Steam finally got back to us. Unfortunately they told us they were going to pass on distributing DC on Steam. :(

So if you were waiting, I would suggest you buy the game directly from us, buy from one of the other portals that we are on (currently Impulse and Mac Game Store), or politely bug the Steam folks.

bergotronic 08-09-2010 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadow (Post 15922)
Well the guys over on Steam finally got back to us. Unfortunately they told us they were going to pass on distributing DC on Steam. :(

So if you were waiting, I would suggest you buy the game directly from us, buy from one of the other portals that we are on (currently Impulse and Mac Game Store), or politely bug the Steam folks.

WTF:eek: - Hello - lurker here. I first heard about Din's Curse from rock paper shotgun. I was very impressed by the demo and have been wanting to purchase the game. I turned a couple of my friends on to the game as well.

I'd like to buy this on steam as this is where I have most of my games - Who can I bug about getting this on steam? Some general steam support email?

Thanks!


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