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Old 11-05-2013, 10:59 AM
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I have a couple of questions about specialist crew. Those are the ones who have titles like Pilot and Gunner, and whose skill bonuses go nearly up to fifty.

Does anyone have a way of reliably getting Specialists? I have gotten hundreds of Drakk from quests, and I am sure that none have been pilots. You cannot scavenge for them, despite being able to do so with normal crew members... which makes me think that they are their own type of component.

Partial answer: You can get Scavenger Gunners from the racial service on Scavenger planets, as long as you use a non-specialist Scavenger to activate it. As of patch 1.032 this no longer works.

Exactly how high do Specialists' bonuses go?
I have a number of them with a 48 bonus, and one with 49. I am reasonably sure that I had a crew member with 51, but it was a long time ago, when I still used Structure and he must have died, because I cannot find him... or I may just be mistaken, because 50 seems like a nice round number for a cutoff.

Answer: Specialists's skill bonuses can go to at least 51.

Do normal crew level into Specialists?
My nephew thinks that one of his did, but isn't sure.
I'm pretty sure at this point that normal crew do not become specialists.

Do Specialists stop spawning after a certain level? I only remember getting specialists at a very low level.
Specialists can spawn at higher levels, but the chances are negligible.

The reason I am asking is that I was planning a build that relies on getting at least three Pilots, and I cannot get even one on that ship.
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Old 11-05-2013, 02:31 PM
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Does anyone have a way of reliably getting Specialists? I have gotten hundreds of Drakk from quests, and I am sure that none have been pilots. You cannot scavenge for them, despite being able to do so with normal crew members... which makes me think that they are their own type of component.
Incorrect.

http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/...2F549A565CAA8/

I got this guy at very low levels after meeting the Scavenger for the first time. I was getting to wish for a Scavenger Crew a bit more useful than my starter crewman I started with, so I tried clicking the Scavenge Racial Service, & clicking this Crewman as he was still sitting in the Racial Crew Slot. A Crewman showed up for Sale... his name was Pix... he was a badass Gunner. We've had a long happy partnership with each other.
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Old 11-05-2013, 02:37 PM
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I have tried scavenging for crew members at sector levels 0, 2, 100, and 160. In every case, scavenging from a specialist fails. I have not scavenged much from other crew members, but I know I have never gotten a Specialist.

It should be trivial to scavenge a few hundred crew members at level 1 with a high level ship. Can you remember exactly how you got your Gunner? What level you were, what level was the Scavenger planet, what crew member you were scavenging from? And are you 100% he did not level from a normal crew member with Tactical? I've been told it's possible.

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Well, I just tried it. Level 1 Drakk ship, level 0 sector. I saved about 1200 credits without leveling (and let me tell you, it was not easy) and scavenged a bit. I had gotten 1 Scavenger crew member from a kill.

I scavenged 4 times off my original Drakk crew member, and got 4 Brunt guys. One was a marine.
I scavenger 4 more times off the Scavenger I found, and got 4 Scavengers, all of them Gunners?!

I have to say, I am very surprised of the results. Usually I do not have any money before I level, because I start sectors at level 4, and make leveling the priority.

I am going to try scavenging from one of the Gunners, but I will not be able to get any more cash without leveling, so that won't be a fixed variable. In any case, thanks for the info, I would have never tried it without your input.

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At level two...

I scavenged once from the Drakk, and got a non-specialist Brunt.
Once from the Scavenger, and got another Gunner.
I tried scavenging off the Gunner, but it does not work.

It seems that scavenging off Scavengers always gives Gunners, and scavenging from Drakk gives Brunt. At low levels, that is. At high levels everything gives you Droids.

I'd like to experiment more, but money is hard to come, when you are a wimp. Still the results are very weird - I have trouble believing that this is how it's supposed to be.

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The weirdness continues... At high levels, you cannot scavenge from Specialists, and when you scavenge from anything but Scavengers, you get droids. But if you scavenge from Scavengers, you get Gunners, which are restricted to Scavenger ships and their subraces. And some of them go to 51, like this guy:

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Old 11-05-2013, 02:44 PM
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I can no longer remember the Level, but I wasn't far into the game at the time I met the Scavenger on Borg for the first time. I would guesstimate I was somewhere between Lvl 8 - 15, I definitely couldn't have been higher then Lvl 15 cause this was definitely before I attacked the 2nd Challenge Sector. The Scavenger Planet was likely in the same or slightly lower level range to me. Yes, i'm 100% he did not Level into the Gunner Specialization because Pix is absolutely only the second Scavenger I have ever gotten... now that I think of it, I don't remember ever finding a 3rd after him. The Crew Member I clicked to have Pix show up in Scavenging was the starter Scavenger Crewman the Ship started with after being born, & he was just like all other Starter Crew in having no Specialization & being crappy quality. I clicked right on this crappy starter crewman as he was still sitting in the Racial Scavenger Crew Slot on duty.
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Thanks. Your info started some experimentation, and I am reflecting the results in the original post. I would not be surprised it all turns out to be a bug, so maaaybe you want to scavenge Pix some friends

No help with my Pilot shortage, though. As a matter of fact, I am leaning even more towards thinking that Specialists are a separate component type. That would explain why all scavenged Scavengers are Gunners.
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Why do I wanna Scavenge Pix some friends...? Am I in danger of Pix getting screwed up in a future 'fix'?

Wouldn't be the first time fixes have screwed me up...

Well, might not even be worth worrying about regardless, since Drakk & Scavenger are now both obsolete Race Choices to play as, i'm eyeballing replacing my Scavenger with an Ultimate Weapon & my Drakk with a Clone Ship.
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Old 11-05-2013, 06:49 PM
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Why do I wanna Scavenge Pix some friends...? Am I in danger of Pix getting screwed up in a future 'fix'?
No, nothing like that. But I think that by next patch, we will be unable to get garanteed 50+ Tactical Gunners just by flying to a Scavenger planet... and if you are building a Ultimate Weapon ship, would you not want the +85% damage that one of them would provide?
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That sounds like an excellent point...
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