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Todo list
This is my entire todo list for Drox Operative 2. It changes daily. I add things constantly from testing and feedback. I remove things often that aren't feasible or just don't fit. Just because something is on here, it just means I'm considering it, it doesn't mean it will ever happen. Also, the ordering doesn't always mean much and there are probably a lot of duplicates at the moment.
Please feel free to comment on anything in here! *Quests* -------- * sector started with like 10 locust quests * pirate ship -> pirate base -> more pirate ships QuestRenegadePirate base can call reinforcements when attacking pirates roam around, destroy & steal, each counts as a success & more likely to escalate * smugglers similar, but can start drug waves & rebellions due to smuggled weapons * are we using the monster stations much if at all? can uprisings lead to stations getting built? * a few things you could add would be space stations for pirates (HoboElf) * Destroying a planet quest still fails when you kill the planet and it's the last one of the race (Xrayfk05 (Joost)) * Primitive race X is at planet Y in system Z. Make them your protectorate, help them grow and reach the space age. (medium) (Bluddy) * Same quest, but help primitive race X take over the sector. (hard) (Bluddy) * Drox quests need better reward (Darke) * Currently in a Ceasefire state with Scavenger race. (Poilux) Accepted a Rebel quest for one of their planets. This quest wants me to sell/donate a good for this planet. I have what is needed to resolve the quest. (double checked type of good AND level.) If you deliver the good, nothing happens. Quest tells me it's failed because the planet has been destroyed even though it's not. (The planet isn't even attacked.) Checked if another system had the same name, or if another planet in this system had the same name, but no. probably went over to a rebel faction and failed because they were destroyed before it could give credit * The scavengers had an ultimate weapon quest pop up, and then after awhile the colony on the planet simply disappeared. It wasn't destroyed, it literally ceased to exist. (Redsovietz) * resurrected race can be immediately hostile, and if you have fighters up they will blast the planet out of existence before you can react and move out of range (Annex) * if there is a sabotage quest by selling an item to planet, can you do it accidentally? need to have quest to do it? * Galactic Flu quest missing planet name - The Galactic Flu has spread from (Human) to flopsiris (Human) (Sharp) * next is that quests to kill structures such as fighter bases and quests to kill planets don't seem to work correctly. instead of completing, they fail with a message about how the target no longer exists. I can try to reproduce these tomorrow too. (silver7017) * It is possible for a planet to need (ie, to quell riots) something that it is currently selling. That probably shouldn't happen. (Eris Shrugged) * You help rebellion, take rebel quest and create a whole rebel planet for them, quest gets failed (because quest giver dissapears after you done with his mission, and you can't turn that mission in); (LotusBlade) * I wouldn't mind seeing some quests offered by friendly/treaty races to escort their colonizer ships. I'd like to know the ships destination, and have my choice of ships to escort. i understand that this might actually cause pages and pages of quest spam in larger games, so maybe there would be a way to narrow this down to specific types of escorts offered or something. All I know is that there are certain races I'd love to see flourish, but players don't have the time to wait around for a ship to build, load up, and start the move. (kerzain) * I attempted completing a "resurrect dead race" questline. When I completed it, the race was immediately destroyed with the words "newcovenantX" (the localization issue is fixed) under the "Trizantark have been destroyed" notice. (The Grand Mugwump) * And on an unrelated note, somehow I keep completing quests that I'm not even in the right sector for and getting rewarded for it... I think NPCs are killing quest targets and for some reason it is giving me the exp as though I was there (Jackrel) Seems to happen more frequently on abnormally long running sector runs. - rightful race no longer alive? * Suggestion: altered rates of reputation hits from quests/trades of different types. (Kurama Kitsune) At present, doing a quest for an enemy of someone hits you fairly hard, regardless of the quest type. I would like to suggest that this be changed depending on the quest type you accept the rewards of: 1. Monster, boss, device, and ancient warship quests: Should only hurt your reputation with enemies of the race paying you by about 25% (or at most 50%) of what they do currently. After all, these quests effectively help them too usually, so while they could be understandably miffed a bit that you are taking money from an enemy they should at least be able to mostly brush it off since you are making things safer for them in the long run too. 2. Quests such as scouting or stealing technology (and perhaps those which solve problems on planets like selling weapons to one), as well as trades that give technology to a race should perhaps give MORE of a hit, since you are basically directly aiding their enemy in a way that does NOT help them at all, and in all likelihood may be selling them out. RelationChangeSolvedForEnemy -6.0 // The full value only used if relation with enemy is 0.0 * Additionally, or perhaps alternatively instead, there could be a new quest type added. Where a new quest item, [species name] colonists, may sometimes appear at more heavily populated worlds, and delivering them to a planet that "needs" them (i.e. a world that is low on pop but can support more) will "heal" the planet a bit (or rather, instantly add some population to it). (Kurama Kitsune) * kill X quests sometimes mention the wrong system, so they say bad guy is in Y system but when you search for target it says the marker was placed in Z system instead (and bad guy is found there) (Annex) * phase of resurrecting race where you go to scout a planet for colonization can be set to a non-existent planet. Im told its in a black hole system, which has no planets, and its my only quest. Green marker is for an adjacent system, which also is a black hole system and has no planets (Annex) * Quests where you're asked to "defend planet X" or "take dude/object to planet X" or similar: If you don't already know the location, it'd kind of make sense for the quest giver to point to it on the map. :/ (Darke) * destroy Station quests dont seem to work. Going to the right planet and destroying the only station thats there results in no changes to the quests status. Destroying the planet fails the quest (Annex) * a race thats been resurrected can itself give a quest to resurrect another race, however only the first phase of the questline seems to work and part 2 never appears (Annex) * missing some quests/rebel quests for some subraces - ultimate weapon, pirates, etc. * will ancient or young rebel quests work? * also protecting a planet is priority 3 (Eris Shrugged) *Items/components* ------------------ * I have noticed a possible problem with using certain chips in special weapons. (ZviHantsis) A pulsar generator (special weapon) cannot accept chips with "all weapons" description. In particular, I was trying to use a +% weapon speed (faster "reload time") and got a notification that this cannot be used on this item. * -%-bonusses on weapons, are they calculated in the DPS shown or not? I added a % damage bonus gem to a weapon and the DPS shown did not change. (Vassago) * AOE weapons should probably have higher power requirements, preventing you from equipping too many of them (Bluddy) and/or higher energy consumption, forcing u indirectly to either get more powergens or better energy regen, via stats or accessories (DysDaemoN) * Also, the medium slot weapons should be weaker, I think, and have lower stat requirements. Not sure if that's currently the case. (Bluddy) * are weapons always exact same damage? * I've got a marine this run, and my last couple attempts to have them finish a ship off for me have resulted in them just sitting there for at least 30 seconds with nothing happening. They're level 5, and I'm flying a low-level Shadow ship. (Eris Shrugged) * Level 25 Marines (both lvl 25) - boarded on craft, doing no damage (sat there for entire armor bar, no dice). Target ship is level 40 ish. https://i.imgur.com/6n9dSWP.jpg (Boink) * be able to break down components into Chips & tech? (Kurama Kitsune) * Out of combat (shot the ship), both marines still claiming they're boarding: https://i.imgur.com/KVhdgFl.jpg (Boink) * They're still claiming it, 10 mins later + having changed system. Edit: fixed itself on next ship, they're still not doing much damage and still reporting they're Boarding outside of combat. Edit: apparently level 30 marines x2 do only 22 damage (together) on level 40 mobs. This is... broken / not working. Suggestion: change the Marine mechanics from a DoT to a % insta-kill (or % of total HP, probably easier to do) if under <X> health per tick. e.g. If under 20% then 40% chance / 10% HP tick, if under 5% 80% chance, with multiples adding a diminishing return bonus. Otherwise, they don't seem to scale very well (and I've not looked up the actual mechanics - they might do this already, and it was just bugged). (Boink) * Chips consistently drop as yellow items which bears no relation to their rarity (Boink) * disguise: make yourself look like a race ship, allowing an attack to be blamed on another race (Bluddy) this might work better as a consumable item or a normal item that uses up durability fairly quickly and can't be repaired * Seriously those green battery (+ener / sec) are the lifeblood of a lot of non specced in engy ships ,holy crud those lill thingmabobs work overtime... ALL THE TIME!! XD They should consider adding this boost to the yellow energy battery (max energy) , maybe I would consider using said battery component that way XP (Demios) * Maybe it's an end-game thing, and I'm only in my 70s, but almost nothing I equip has chips since: (Darke) They seem to be rare to non-existent on yellow and above items that I want to equip (Darke) I've played 5-6 sectors since the new patch dropped and I've seen precisely one chip drop (Darke) They're so rare in stores that I actually notice when they're there, and the three ones I've seen have been pretty much garbage since they were only on newbie planets that hadn't gotten space ships yet? (Darke) For reference I've got 21 component slots unlocked, but only three items with a chip slot available, and no chips to add them; the only one that dropped recently was +79% to minimum weapon damage, which seems pretty good, but I don't have a weapon chip slot on my beam weapon so... yeah. * tractor beams could also extend range of item pickup * I think medium components that increase attack speed aren't affecting the new Heavy ballistic weapons (like Plasma Cannon types) (Darkness) * Items that allow you to disguise your ship like one of the races (one item per race) for 5 minutes or so. This would allow you to get past races that hate you (assuming you look like their friend), and would allow you to destroy race ships and get hatred towards the race you look like. You could also blow up diplomats heading to important meetings (like peace meetings) with no repercussions for yourself, but framing another race. (Bluddy) * I don't have a great solution to this, but having new versions of the various consumables show up available to buy becomes kind of obnoxious, since you're faced with wanting to just throw the old ones away. This feels like a waste of money, or inventory space if you keep both. (Eris Shrugged) * would be nice to randomize components - pass along modifier power? * stat bump on higher rarity items - components that use skills, mostly weapons and other active components * spy ships (hard to see, better radars or specific components to see) races can use could have quests to find and destroy these limited to small ships? or have to have multiple for larger ships? * Implement the "crafting table" mechanic from Din's Legacy at every functional gate in the game so a Drox player can operate deep in enemy space for extended periods of time. * thrust consumable boosts ram damage? *Balance* --------- * Race ships still die very quickly and planets with 5 or more race ships are still no real challenge. (level 116 universie, lvl 95 ship) (Vassago) * scavenger starts with cannon but has bonus to computers * Faction ships scaling is too high. I have two 350+ dps weapons at level 66 and kill all other enemies in seconds but I have to shoot at faction ships for around a minute each. (Zerul) * Stat bonuses are too small to be even noticeable. I suggest trying something multiplicative or otherwise noteable benefits to equipment aligned with that stat. (Zerul) *Crew* ------ * make sure skill levels up also * unique crew * can have slave crew? happiness irrelevant? makes slave races happier and freedom races unhappy? especially slave of their race * young crew - it does have race name entries needs to save race name needs to use saved names save/load stuff correctly needs to send to client correctly needs to send over to server when connecting correctly * more crew drops and/or more crew available for hire at planets * would be really nice if could get crew or even start as random races (not sure feasible) * get a bonus with your race? get a bunch if you have some of their crew (that aren't slaves)? * need to be able to get crew from young races (entry for each one, and need to store a name seed) *Spies* ------- * Giving spies the ability to steal jump gate activations would make a ton of sense and make them a more useful tool for players trying to wipe out a hostile empire. (Eris Shrugged) * Also, sometimes races/factions can solve their own quests. Currently this is done with timers and randomness, but it'd be even better if they'd send out someone/some ship to do it -- at least for some quests. For example, a quest requiring medicine delivery could, after a timer expires, spawn a ship delivering that medicine, which would be visible via spying. You can race against the ship and try solve the quest yourself, or you could destroy that ship, making sure the quest fails so that you get the bad result. This system therefore empowers you to either use quests for good or for ill. *Relationships* --------------- * Diplomacy involving 3 or more parties needs improvement. Right now I can be called to a defensive war by my hippy pacifist allies, but once I've ground the evil imperial aliens into dust and made them ready to surrender my only real options are to wipe them out myself or wait and let my allies get around to it, eventually, maybe. There is no way to get my allies directly involved with a peace agreement, so if I show mercy by taking the enemies as a tributary, my former allies will now hate me for having an agreement with someone they're at war with. (Lowen) * I can ask them to make peace after, but they'll probably say no because they'll hate the 3rd party for declaring war on them, plus they'll see how weak they've become and value peace that much less. Never mind that they're a pacifist and the player (me) was the one that did all the work. That's assuming they don't instantly declare war on me. (Lowen) * Even something as simple as getting two factions to like or dislike each other is a massive chore involving many clicks using the espionage system. (Lowen) * Also, I don't seem to be getting any money from them. Shouldn't they be sending some credits my way periodically? Was expecting to see my credits count tick up occasionally? (Exgene) * Got my first tributary the other night. It seems to have forced their attitude to 0 - never really grows past that. Since they are not aggressive I guess I could live with this, if not for the second aspect, below. (Exgene) * There is definitely needed expansion to Vassal/tributary/protectorate options. (AlCool) Tributary could be based on races fear of a player or another faction (A new stat). Potentially that would allow a player or enemy race beat another race into submission, leaving a race with a last desperate option to prevent destruction. Vassal could be based on a similar stat. Races would then be able to offer themselves as a vassal or tributary to another race or the player. * Drox2: When you help rebels on planet X of race Y you will loose relation with race Y when solving. However any allies of Race Y will be happy somehow (Xrayfk05 (Joost)) * wouldn't allies or protectorates help primitives level up? * I'm still wondering how much more you'll expand on the new treaties - Protectorate, Tributary, Vassal - it seems a bit weird how factions want or not want (or how much they charge) to get into such a deal. I'd really like to get into Protectorate more, but it feels races are a bit resistant. (Gabriel Carvalho) * And the thing is when you have a surplus of relation and they see you as powerful, you can extort them more easily. You may lose relation in the process, but you can easily gain them back since they still give out so much relation for each quest. (Verdusk) * I remember Economic victory being usually impractical, but the last few sectors I've won with Economic before I've even got to do a lot of things, and only walked into 2 systems including the starting system and not even explored the second one that much, because extorting a few races and selling all the loot is enough already to get Economic victory. The other objectives then become irrelevant since I win even without intending to far before any of the other victory objectives is halfway complete. The guild quests are way out of consideration since it's no longer worth for any reason. (Verdusk) this shouldn't be true, getting extra credits and relation for quests? * Protectorate seems useless? I can't work out the effect it has, and it doesn't even give you the benefit that the non-aggressive-pact gives you, by showing you where all their planets are. I was trying to do a delivery to one of their planets to terraform or something and I had to break the protectorate, take the rep hit, then do a non-aggression-pact to find out where it was. This seems like a bug to me. (Darke) * I'd forgotten about that and totally agree. It'd be nice if they would consider more factors than "we hate them" in declaring war. At least I'd love to see a little more weight to things like fleet strength so weak races don't start a war with stronger races unless they've got friends involved already or their opinion of them is rock bottom. * asked races to declare war against others that they hate but were in a protectorate agreement and they'd accept the trade but nothing would happen (HoboElf) * Currently i am in a protectorate with race A (And have been boosting them with free tech). (Excellion) Race A on turn became a protectorate overlord for race B. As Race B was in the way, i declared war on them to remove their simple planet from existence. What occurred after that, was that the game reported that "Race A honored protectorate with race B, declaring war on Drox Operative (Or rather, my faction)" Checking the races screen does not reflect this. My relation with race A is still good, and there is no sign of us actually being at war (Which leads me to believe this war message currently triggers incorrectly in this specific scenario). * shouldn't be able to buy your way into a race becoming a vassal, tributary, or protectorate * [0.801] - (Bugreport) - Race relationship is gained for peace offers, even if the race's federation refuses to accept. (Excellion) When a race is in a federation, it cannot accept a peace offer on its own unless the federation agrees. In this case the race itself can accept the offer, though the game will then display a message indicating the federation did not accept the peace offer (Leaving the race at war). When this occurs the player still receive the relationship gain for a successful trade with the petitioned race (0.6 or so relationship increase per trade). Afterwards the peace offer can be repeated infinitely to for effectively unlimited relationship gain with said face. That said i'm not entirely sure of about practical implication of this, as relationship with a race is capped at 52.5 when at war. If a race would ever accept having to pay credits for peace i suppose this could be exploited to gain money. Same if the relationship is applied retroactively if peace is established. But if neither of those are possible i don't see a real scenario where this relationship gain can be abused. * Jackrel also mentioned (as in someone else already has) maybe some quests that might effect everyone like uniques/bosses should not have a relation drop from other races * For the AIs themselves it makes some sense (relation degredation). You're simulating their relations, and those are based off of nothing: they're not really carrying out any actions. So you have to perturb the system in different directions. Actually that makes me wonder: are the AIs more likely to fight when they're vying to conquer the same planets? Do they need anything more than each other's contacts, even if they're on opposite ends of the sector? I wonder what the level of simulation is. (Bluddy) * My ally keeps federating with his enemy he has 0 relations towards, causing him to declare war on me. But since our relations are still at 100, I immediately negotiate a peace treaty and alliance, which sets my relation to the other guy in the federation to 50. Then my ally immediately dissolves the federation to declare war on his enemy again. This has been looping non-stop for the past couple hours in my most recent sector. I think it might be because they're both friends with a fanatic pacifist who declares war on people but not really (like you say above). (The Grand Mugwump) * It is currently almost impossible to maintain good relations with the empires you start next to if they start small. They simply don't have the planets and systems to issue enough quests to overcome the natural penalty over time to relations. I finally tried a developed sector and there were enough quests for me to ally with whoever I wanted immediately available in just the starting system alone. So the relation degradation was a non-issue there. (The Grand Mugwump) I feel a good solution to this would be to make the relation degradation scale with how powerful an empire is. Weak empires would try to gain favor with the drox operative to gain an edge, so I feel it would be neat if relations with them automatically improved over time (except for xenophobic and militaristic being too proud for it maybe) to counteract the utter lack of quests while they're still small. It also makes sense because a weak empire would have no reason to declare war on a drox operative they have no hope of defeating, and every reason to try to win them over or at least avoid open hostilities. Meanwhile, strong empires you are not allied with would begin to view the drox operative as more of a liability than an asset and relations would degrade more quickly if you don't have any treaties with them. I don't know how you measure the strength of empires in your coding, but it could be something like "if empire has less than 5% of the planets in a sector, then they suck up to the drox" or something. And xenophobes would probably just prefer to remain neutral until they get stronger. The percent might need to be higher for a tiny sector or it could just be "if they have less than 5-10 planets". That'd probably be more straightforward. * a race will request, and often spam with requests to break treaty with X race when youre allied with X but at war with the race doing the requesting. Such a request makes zero sense as there is no benefit to the player to do so. Recommend either make such requests only appear if the requesting race isnt at war with you, OR make the benefit of such a request that the requesting race immediately cease war with you and get relations to say 50. Then you can effectively terminate one alliance/treaty and start working with the opposing race. (Annex) might need to mention something is a demand * Differentiate between faction-advantaging and general-welfare missions. Helping an enemy faction finish their research or colonize a planet should piss off my allies, yes. Killing a monster boss who's planning on killing everyone or destroying a device causing ion storms everywhere shouldn't make my allies angry just because the unpopular kid suggested it. *Races* ------- * need to move InvisibleDistance from race npc archetype to status effect ArchetypeNpcShadow -> RaceTraitStealth * Had similar experience, tried to make someone declare war, relation was 10ish. The problem was the race was in the Federation, and other members had good standing with race I needed to make war with, they didn't allow to initiate war. Bug is - you get trading standing for successful trade, and can do it again and again, coz war doesn't start. (Sent Ernit) * espionage should get bonus if done on tech planet? or one a planet that has a tech rate higher than race average? * rumor gets bonus if on bigger than average planet for that race? (population wise) * Further experimentation with demanding credits yielded the interesting fact that I can just demand credits from races that completely hate me and I am actively destroying. This is probably a bug, rather than a feature. (Eris Shrugged) * Incorrect war declaration messages when a race with an existing war joins a federation. (Excellion) 01:15:06 - Dryad joined Lithosoid's Federation 01:15:06 - Dryad joined Okul's Federation 01:15:06 - Okul declares War on Nimitz 01:15:06 - Lithosoid honors Federation with Okul, declares War on Nimitz Before joining the federation, the Dryads and myself were at war. The logs suggest that Dryad joined a federation with the Okul and the Lithosoid, which led to them both declaring war on myself. However, this is not the case on the relations screen. On the relations screen both Okul and Lithosoid are not at war with me. An somehow the pre-existing war with the Dryads is gone as well (All three races are now at peace with me, and in a federation with each other). * Another issue with diplomacy is that you can demand empires dry out of money if you do it right. I had 200k but spent over a million in services, then I'd demand the money back and pretty much use OP services for free. (Gabriel Carvalho) I almost don't want to report that because I sort of love the ability to 4X-Exploit the empires if I want to, so I'm not even sure how I stand on that. Part of me just wants to see it as a feature (Gabriel Carvalho) * add a step past vassal for slavery races? * I would like to be able to buy decent selection of chips from 1 race, human maybe , because gamble is quite useless. Also you should be able to hire crew from race you are playing, it is especialy dificult to get any crew for subraces and you are often doomed to play with default crew member if u pick subrace. (planetnik6) * A new spy service (from race) that reveals where all the planets of a race is. (Verdusk) * A new service that provides temporary buffs your ship. Buff varies according to the race. (Verdusk) * Transaction to have one of their ship become your party member, maybe temporarily, can be cancelled and lose relation if it dies (Verdusk) * Since this patch: Rizak ships can now be 100% invisible always even when right on top of them. Watching planets get scanned on a brand new sector by their ships. Sound and scanning animation is there but no ship! (Annex) * be able to vouch for an ally? uses up some of your influence relation and adds it to the ally? * One particularly frustrating moment had me in a 3 vs 2 alliance. Despite one of the two enemies being significantly weaker, down to just a few planets that were heavily guarded, my allies decided to keep sending colony ships and escorts through the heart of the stronger enemies empire, getting their warships and colony ships destroyed needlessly. Sadly, my ship was not equipped to take on the 12-15 defenders they had guarding their final two planets since they were so close together both defensive fleets pursued me as I approached. I instead had to tend to matters elsewhere, which allowed them to colonize and build themselves up once again. * sometimes an ai won't stop scanning & then shooting ballistic and going back and forth * intelligence sharing, research treaties, embargo, attack planet, defend planet, make peace with, surrender * build a description from random races based on traits & random background? * human ships stuck at planet they destroyed (stuck in AttackPlanet behavior) - no where else to go? * Eliminated by random race doesn't show race name (probably need to save actual String) * turn on better pleas for help? - getPleaForHelpChance stuff * First bug-when i wasn't at war with ancient race few of their planetary defence ships fire at me with no reason. (Mithur) * it not a bug but mostly a misviewed thing(it was also in expansion to Drox 1) of ancient races-when they expand they empires, their planets/ships wont been attacked by monster ships. (Mithur) * can I do at least a color variation for different races using same ships? a random color variation would be cool * science people respond well to tech * economy people respond to money * pacifists like protection (dislike when you war or destroy ships/planets) * races should like when you have crew of their race & maybe dislike when you have crew of enemies (unless slaves) * Transfers between planets could happen with 'dummy ships' that aren't really created using resources, but just represent the transfer of goods and enable you (or monsters) to intercept them. * would need to have patrol ships along shipping lanes * the ingame random race icon might need testDepth * do list & processShaderMustLoadFirst correctly for random race icons? * cruise ships going through hostile territory don't make sense. Would be better if they "patrolled" the system they started out in visiting the various planets there. This way theyre more realistically within that races territory (Annex) * races often have their economy collapse whereby they just stop building ships. Planets will show a new ship to be built in 3 HOURS (Annex) *Exploration* ------------- * Even after you've found everything, you might get a quest to kill x number of a type of space monster and there's nothing to tell you where you can find some of that monster spawned. Just wandering around the system looking doesn't seem like good gameplay design to me. (Lowen) be able to search for them and if none add one? * ProjGeomagneticStorm - yellow - already there but not used? weapon? * any type of space object can have an anomaly version (mines)? * unique planets *Objects* --------- * Stash/shared stash out in the middle of nowhere - I had a group of named enemies chasing me outside the bounds of the system and for some reason my ship stash and shared stash are sitting out there, on top of one another. Fully usable. Probably a bug? (derpenstein) * The unstable wormhole anomaly could have some kind of animation or effect that gives the player a cue for when the teleportation event is going to happen. As matters stand, you can scan it, fly away, fly back to it, and sometimes get teleported if you time it right, with no real idea what the timing is supposed to be. Some visual event would make this experience feel much more polished. (Eris Shrugged) * use current storms more and have some that are permanent and gives some systems a "terrain" * I think the main thing in my suggestion is that they can make systems interesting. A system with a huge patch of gamma radiation anomaly will have a dead zone there that needs to be avoided. A system with patches of size-changing anomalies will have potentially very dangerous monsters coming out of those patches. The idea is to add interesting effects + make different parts of space interesting. (Bluddy) This idea exists in DL to some degree in the form of totems and altars with aura, but can be used to a stronger degree in a game that needs help with memorable maps like Drox. * but the other part of the idea is that anomalies are always active and take up large swaths of the map. In this way, space isn't just normal space with things in it. It's space with weird modifiers in large chunks of it. (Bluddy) * Nice to see your ‘terrain’ suggestion of different nebulas having unique properties – that’s one I had in mind as well. Being able to sneak up to a planet following a ‘stealth’ nebula would be neat, as would an added travel speed nebula. (Bluddy) * Can we keep a faster shield and energy recharge by staying at ancient recharge stations? The passive boost is nice, but it takes a long time after a heavy battle to get charged back up, so say it gave a 2% boost while touching it, along with the 2% passive boost? You can already do that at planets by touching a recharge station then talking to a planet. (Fulano) * unstable wormhole needs to show some kind of effect even if you are out of range * unstable wormhole should probably teleport other things also if it doesn't already * can't destroy asteroid with a missile (I think the asteroid destroys the missile) *Better info for player* ------------------------ * tell ship costs? * time estimate of 0:00 not helpful - now that guard planet quest is fixed this probably not needed * There isn't enough info about the 4x game, and the text log is inadequate. The maps are the best interfaces for showing this info (much like the Master of Orion galaxy map). The galaxy map should show not just which race is where, but also icons showing how many planets each race has at each system, whether an attack is happening, etc. Mousing over the icons would give more details. The system map should show which race owns which planet, and mousing over the planet should give more info about it. The amount of info could on the map could be limited by your contact, level of spying on a race etc. (Bluddy) * Diplomat ships should be sent for every racial diplomatic action: gifts, but also agreements, vassalization etc. If you blow them up with no witnesses, you get to mess up whatever they were working on. (Bluddy) * You'd need a way to get info about planets of your enemies as well (normally the icon would change to attack and you wouldn't be able to interact with it). (Bluddy) * wish could start big space battles on purpose or know when and where they are happening * be able to coordinate and get reports of fleet activity so you can join in big battles? * getting info on fleets, scouts, colony ships, supply ships could be interesting especially if destroying them mattered & spies could increase chance of getting info, also allies and their spies could impact, if do would make sense to have more opportunities to use this, diplomatic meetings, etc * So another note for Drox 2 is: give the player some notion of what they can do to help with elements of the 4x. For example, all the player needs to know is that minerals are used for building ships, and population and planet-specific stats affect mineral production. Unfortunately Drox doesn’t tell the player anything about this stuff * planet list - Within this UI, hovering over the planet would show you additional information, such as the quests available at that planet. *Controller* ------------ *left click from A should be a bit loose (easier to pick up items) need better item pickup/use when pressing a (needs to auto target a little) *add acceleration to mouse move from controller? *do I need to be able to select self? was added for things like healing spells hitting a when planet is selected will just select player, and next a press will work * joystick problem person (Kruno Saho) I have many plugged in at once (4+), that isn't even including all the wireless controllers (20+), in total I have about 50-60 controllers. This isn't an issue in other games because under USB Game Devices I set a recommended pad and that is the one that games always use. DS4; Bluetooth (basically a PS4 controller) I am using DS4Windows for that controller. https://www.techradar.com/how-to/gam...n-a-pc-1309014 Linux lose joystick - https://wiki.libsdl.org/SDL_JoyDeviceEvent - LinuxInputSystem::joystickEvent *Interface* ----------- * look at bumping zoom max up to 2.0 (DysDaemoN) * skillsScreen help topic * add help for skills screen * planets Screen help topic * add help for planets screen * primitive icon on relation screen? * Biggest Accomplishment on congrats screen blank, next game it was a deliver diplomat quest * Suggestion: monitor select on linux (Gabranth) Hi is it possible to add an option to select which monitor to use as the game refuses to use my main display when in fullscreen. * Possible bug with diplomacy (Dreepa) I had the message "Federation is stopping Brutes from going to War with <Playername>" come up every 20 seconds on repeat, forever. I think it has to do with the federation of 2 factions, where 1 faction was my tributery, and the other faction of the federation always wanted to declare war on me. But probably the tributee faction stopped them from going to war. So it was always that message over and over. * Relation messages always adress "Playername" which is weird in multiplayer (Dreepa) It is unclear if diplomacy is only per player, or for all players, because when you make a treaty the message is: "Faction has signed <treaty> with <playername>". When in fact, it is for ALL DROX players in the game. So maybe replace the playername with "Drox Collective" or something, to make clear it affects all coop players. * When you have an impact analisys equiped, you can not right-click one in your inv. to replace the current one. (Says you allready have one eq) (Xrayfk05 (Joost)) DamageControl3-1 * random images (here scavenger logo) can be shown when hovering over a starlane warp point. The image shown depends on your position or your distance so this one seems scary to me (potential pointer corruption?) (Pimgd) try to reproduce this again * It would be nice to be able to press enter on screens with just one button, such as after trading and getting a reply from a race and an 'ok' button. (Bluddy) * Option to remove pause in-game needed - It is getting tiring pretty fast , that every time I click on a planet to talk or trade , the game goes on pause ..... by Forced pauce . (lbhgaming) We have to get an option somewhere in the game , to remove that pause . You can´t even identify items , while in trade menu . * found primitively instantly when clicking on planet * doesn't tell me what I get per command point (on command stuff) * encountered a race called virivok which had no portrait (Smogg) * There's got to be a better way to do this (FDru) So when salvaging items, they populate the store slots in a totally random fashion it seems. So when it fills a slot that's already filled with the same item, there's absolutely no way to tell if it happened at all or to which slot the item went, other than mousing over every item to see which ones have changed since the last time you executed the salvage order. This becomes incredibly tedious very quickly. Surely there's a better way to do this... * in one sector i played, a starlane was spawned exactly on top of a wormhole. i was not able to click the wormhole. after saving and leaving i could not load that sector. (maybe fixed. happened using the previous version) (Smogg) * Dont know whats wrong but after this patch the sector map is all smashed when you zoom in everything is overlapping other things and sometimes the map bugs out and moves off the right side of the screen. Only fix is exit game and resume game. Would be nice if there was a center map button or the ability to zoom in farther and move the map around. Sector map kinda sucks on BIG games. No probs on tiny sector games. (Tantrumus) * sometimes not the weakest component of the type, but the second-best is replaced when right clicking a new/better component in my inventory (tested with shields) (Smogg) * I've been having a problem opening the sector map and the map just shoves off the screen to the right. No idea what is happening there. Really begging for a CENTER map button/keybind. It doesnt happen every game but when it does I usually have to exit out of the game and back in. No combo of zoom out seems to work. (Tantrumus) * planet menu help * cargo bays items/total space on their actual icon can overlap some (DysDaemoN) * If I try to use a jump gate to teleport to an uninhabited system where I don't have the gate, I am informed by the tooltip that I'm not bound to the gate and no one inhabits the system. (Eris Shrugged) If I do the same thing in a system which is inhabited but I haven't found the inhabitants, I'm just informed that I'm not bound to the gate. Which means I now know the system is inhabited. Whether this is just me being clever and noticing something subtle or an exploit is up to you. * Load the game, open the map screen, notice your position shown by a green dot. Now, return to the main screen and zoom in all the way. Return to the map screen and your green dot will be missing. (Eris Shrugged) Playing with intermediate levels of zoom in the main game screen reveals what's happening - the model for the player's ship is still being rendered on the map screen as an opaque area, and it's possible for it to cover up that green dot. * There are cases where clicking on a portal brings up an empty sector map, which cannot be zoomed or scrolled, preventing portal travel. Accessing your own map (set on Sector View) and then clicking on the portal fixes it. (DysDaemoN) On 0.821 i've also had cases where the sector map invoked by clicking on the portal was functional, but trying to pan it (by left click-dragging) instantly made it empty, unzoomable and unscrollable. It was again fixed by first setting your own map to sector view and then clicking on the portal. In both of those cases the issue did not persist forever; later the portal map worked properly by itself. I assume it was fixed after discovering more destinations but cannot test it now. * Drox 2: TimeStop Glitch: Moving while objects and projectiles are frozen, without triggering mines/wormholes (DysDaemoN) To execute, bring up the Main Menu and spam the Pause key Movement and steering of the ship is still possible by holding/toggling the corresponding keys You can also shoot, but only once, before closing the Main Menu (thus ending the glitch) Your projectiles will also stay frozen though at the position where u fired them Also perhaps related bug: If the Main Menu is invoked while the game is paused, closing it will unpause the game Especially annoying if the Pause key is assigned to a toggle key, like Caps Lock * Interacting with a planet with a beam weapon equipped on left mouse can be really awkward; the game seems to very much prefer considering a click as being an attempt to attack something, even if the target is offscreen. (Eris Shrugged) * Bug with mouse targetting (Dalwin) I always use the WASD keys for movement, never the mouse, but the following still occurs. My typical configuration is to assign a rapid firing dumb weapon to the right mouse button. It needs to have a low enough energy draw that I can fire it continuously. I then just hold down the RMB as I am moving away from a pack of chasing enemies. That part all works. To the LMB I often assign either a guided weapon like a simple laser or a missile. Sometimes it is a second unguided weapon instead. Usually I do not have enough energy to continuously fire both RMB and LMB so the latter is only fired sporadically. The problem is that with the RMB firing continuously the LMB often wants to interpret the button push as a move command instead of a fire command even though I am configured for keyboard movement only. If I pause the RMB firing long enough to engage the LMB first, them everything is working normally again for a while. me: I can't reproduce this. Do you have "Allow Basic Mouse Move" and "Allow Basic Mouse Target Move" options turned off? Yes both of the mouse move options are off. This does not happen 100% of the time. It is once very few minutes, but very disorienting when it does happen. * "Unrest on %PlanetName%" quest did not show a green asterisk over the destination planet on the map screen, though it does show a green asterisk over the destination system. The green exclamation point when near the planet was present. (Low priority - the information is easily available elsewhere.) (Takarias) * Chips contained in a hold with an empty chip slot cannot be applied to that chip slot without first being moved to a different hold. (Low priority - easy workaround) (Takarias) * The scanning progress meter does not hide like other HUD elements when entering the options screens while a scan is active. (Medium priority - not exactly common, but does obscure some menu options.) (Takarias) could just change layering, if already up and bring up and menu, that menu is on top, if menu already up and try to id something then bar is on top * Clicking on an object on the minimap (or even normal map) to auto-navigate to it would be an enormous boon. For example, navigating to known starlanes or planets in safe systems. (Takarias) * Related to the above, waypoints and/or quest markers could show as a translucent arrow in an area around the player. This would make lining up to them so the player can cut across a known system much easier. (Super simple mockup that could be made much better for final implementation here: https://i.imgur.com/M4wxKIJ.jpg ) (Takarias) * Another possible way to do this for any object shown on the minimap would be to duplicate the icon in a circle around the player when the mouse is hovering over the icon on the minimap - this would allow the player to line themselves up without setting a waypoint, reducing friction. (Takarias) * Also an 'autorun' key that eliminates the need to hold W while crossing a sector. Any manual movement input (through WASD or clicking on an interactable entity) should cancel this behavior. (Takarias) * Can you tell that I do a lot of traveling around and would love for it to be far simpler and more efficient? (Takarias) * Even just being able to click on minimap icons directly would be a big help. (Takarias) * There are several treaty types that, if I'm being honest, I either have no idea what they are, or just don't understand the mechanical impact of. There doesn't seem to be any in-game explanation of what they are, so I'm basically just left to look up definitions and hope my intuition is right, which feels a bit bad considering a large amount of player effort is expended trying to shape these race relations. (Takarias) - Specifically, Federation, Alliance, and Mutual Protection Pact all feel pretty identical? What is actually the difference here, or is it just to signify a higher likelihood of two races sharing similar opinions as you go up the chain? (Takarias) - What exactly is a Non-Aggression Pact? Not being aggressive is the default behavior without a treaty, after all. (Takarias) - Subject/Overlord. I get it, but what are the mechanical implications of this treaty? I would assume the Subject's opinion of other races don't matter, and they always follow the behavior of their Overlord. (Takarias) - As an example of this interpretation, the Corius are the subject of the Argora. If the Raganis declare war on the Corius, nothing additional happens. But if the Raganis declare war on the Argora, the Corius will also declare war on the Raganis as their overlord race bids it. (Takarias) - Trade and Free Info Pacts. No idea what these would do. At all. (Takarias) - War and Ceasefire are self-explanatory, but might as well have an added definition for the sake of consistency. (Takarias) * A 'toggle fire' option would be appreciated! I find that holding the mouse during long engagements or over the course of long sessions can flare my impending RSI. :P I could always make a macro for it on my mouse, but not everyone has that option, and an in-game one won't cause issues while alt-tabbing. (Takarias) * What in the world is 'tweaked find chance?' (Takarias) * The Attack and Defense stats perhaps don't have quite the right names. They currently sound like they should determine your damage output and reduction, which is not the case. Better names may be Targeting and Evasion. (Takarias) * Races can be colored cyan, which is the default color for system map labels. At a glance, it looks like any cyan race controls every planet in every system. (Takarias) * The 'has quest available' and 'tutorial' icons are the same, but do not behave the same or indicate the same thing. This is confusing for players that are still going through the tutorial. (Takarias) * Inventory sort options are great - consider making them look like they belong as part of the UI - right now, they're just sorta floating off the bottom edge. (Takarias) * it becomes really hard to identify which races have completed quests on the quest screen when there are a lot of primitives... because the green lines will overlap the green exclamation points. Would be nice if it were a different color, had a strong border, or really anything to make it stand out. (Destro) * Also, wormholes still show up on the system map, and right-clicking one you haven't been through yet lets you see the name of the system on the far side. Which, admittedly, is only going to be useful in a handful of edge cases, but it's still probably not intended. (Eris Shrugged) * Delete old sectors from drop down list. If this was already a thing, I couldn't figure out how to do it in-game. (agentmith) * I had a young race generate with no portrait. Black space on all the interaction screens. (Eris Shrugged) * We seriously need in-game way of deleting galaxies we don't want to goto anymore. (Kurama Kitsune) * When playing multiplayer, my fire rate while holding down the fire button (for example, linked weapons on mouse1) seems to be somehow dependent on ping to host. I would observe the cooldown cycling, then the weapon appearing ready to fire for a short amount of time before firing again. (lancefighter) This is particularly weird, because It seems that if I simply mash the button, the fire rate is 'normal'ish. I am able to set up a macro that fires my weapon similarly to singleplayer, seemingly bypassing the ping issues. My partner similarly recognized a distinct difference in fire rate of my ship with the two methods employed. On the other hand, my partner does not observe any delay when holding down buttons to fire his weapons. For testing, we flipped who was hosting - I hosted a game, and was able to fire my weapons fine, while my partner joined my server and was able to observe a small delay in his own weapons. It is possibly made substantially worse by that I am running both a 25% and 22% weapon speed boost combined on this ship, so the actual fire rate is very small relative to the ping (from east coast US to west coast US for the two of us). * I found a planet with x4 searchable events on it. When it searched the fourth, nothing happened - there was no message, no event spawned and the planet only displays three now. ? (Boink) * Docked, trading - game counts me as having shot one of them, instantly war declared, mutual / alliances kick in. (Boink) * Skill trees are not displayed for races on character creation. (Boink) * the ancient system where missions are limited and non-sortable (barring the * to denote you're in system) is very creaky. Could do with a much better layout. e.g. Race quests in a list on <-- side, Drox Guild quests in a list on the --> right side with the description in the middle. Again, this is a much needed UI upgrade. For that matter, the quest box itself needs love - we have large monitors and 4k resolutions these days, there should be a drop down tab for options. e.g. Show 10, 20, 30 missions; font/UI size, filter/sort by race / highest diplomatic score etc. (Boink) * If I navigate to a race's "get quests" screen and click the "view cargo bays" button, and then hit escape hoping it'll close them, they only close one at a time. I'm not entirely sure why this button even exists. (Eris Shrugged) * When exploring, going out of the map is too easy. There should be a darker fog or something to clearly tell you are out, without relying on the mini map or the blinking message. (Tchey) * When the minimap is over a bright white background (e.g. system's star), the edges of the explored fog of war are splotchy. This isn't (usually) apparent when over darker backgrounds. (ScrObot) https://www.scrobot.com/drox/DO2_.80...imap_edges.jpg * Need crew points upgrade confirmation button. (AHrEJl) * Floating UI elements really don't look good. If they're there, they should be draggable around the screen (I keep trying to move them and failing when I come back to Soldak games). But really, there should be a modal UI that takes over a good chunk of the screen and sums up all the relevant things. For example, I didn't even know about the Bonus character stat in Drox 1 until someone on discord directed me to it for Drox 2! (Bluddy) * New player help being provided by the UI swarming you with "?" instead of a proper tutorial holding your hand like a *cough* mainstream *cough* videogame would. A tutorial button leading to a small pre-made galaxy with all premade elements and barebone scripted story covering the essentials would go a long way. (Jean) * It is probably my age coupled with bad eyesight but I find it very difficult to see the mouse cursor (purple arrow) on screen against the galaxy background…when targeting I sometimes loose it all together! * You know how Master of Orion has the galaxy map that shows you what's happening? Where the races are, where ships are moving etc? I think the sector map needs to be improved to show this info in a clear way, based on information you're aware of. (Bluddy) * Additionally, when a race attacks another race, that race's ship icon should appear over the target race's planet icon. (Bluddy) * Perhaps also a diplomat ship could appear over its target planet. (Bluddy) * playing on 5120x1440 monitor minimap is off a little bit (something is off, I can shift MiniMapMaskCenter to fix large resolutions but just breaks for smaller ones) and Drox background on options screen is off quite a bit * be able to turn off specific win victories? * Consumable items in hotbar: the item level is showing over both the slot number and stack size number, which is very hard to read (especially with "longer" values like III or IV). If the current system remains as-is, I'd suggest changing up how the item levels are shown to make this more readable. (ScrObot) * Some way to quickly donate items, similar to quickly selling, would be wonderful. Maybe sales and donation could both become mouse cursor modes? (Eris Shrugged) * Cheap way to solve the problems of linked weapons being exactly in sync: make weapon fire rate or projectile speed mods common. (Eris Shrugged) does everything have some kind of jitter now? * if storing string anyway, instead of race destroyed by monsters mention specific monster or monster types? * A summary on the galaxy on some information that carry over, like what races are already extinct (especially non-random ones), and maybe their power ranking and relation to you (Verdusk) * Hidden/pocket areas, ie a Small Hideout I found, now pop up randomly-generated system names when entering them and show as Gate to Polibracorp or what-have-you when moused over. (Eris Shrugged) * Jumping through a wormhole only identifies the far side of it, ie the side you arrive on. The side you left from still shows up as Wormhole to ? until you return. If you don't return, say by finding a jump gate on the other side, it'll keep showing up that way indefinitely. (Eris Shrugged) * another bug which I've seen before: the first time opening a jump gate screen can sometimes center the screen really far from the system you are, requiring you to randomly scroll until you find available systems to click. (Darkness) * Also, if I upgrade a weapon, it would be cool if it was replaced in the linked weapon spots too. (Fulano) * the starting inventory bag can't be dropped anywhere. (Darkness) * The old shield equipping bug is still in this version of the game. I've not quite nailed it down to how to re-create it, but sometimes when I have multiple shield items installed I'll right click a better shield and get the message "Can't move component here." It might have to do with fast charge vs normal shields, but not sure. (Fulano) * I can say if I try to right click a shield in my inventory while another shield is installing it says "Installing component" rather than just replacing the shield that is in the process of installing. (Fulano) * Can we have an option to have the recharge stations show up on the map please? (Fulano) * add stuff to pick an old world & delete old world * need a way to delete old galaxy * Power to Defense: Sharply increases Shield regen and armor / structure repair at the cost of less energy regen and weapon damage. (Excellion) * Power to Batteries Sharply increases energy regen at the cost of weapon damage. (Excellion) * Other idea might be to add something akin to the "Prayer" skill from Din's. Heavily increased regen as long as you aren't hit or attacking. (Though that may be a bit overpowered when applied to shields or health). (Excellion) * Typing text into a waypoint works but is pretty unintuitive. Being able to more explicitly select it for editing would be nice. (Eris Shrugged) change to click, get blinking | like console * I agree, and I think the maps need to be spruced up. If the sector map showed you icons for each race: how many planets are in each sector, and whether they're attacking another race (ship icons over another race's planets), it would go a long way towards cleaning out stuff that's currently in the log and making it visual. (Bluddy) *Fighters* ---------- * Simply put your fleet of ships are too squishy to make them a viable means of defense. I know you can increase their hit points but a 30% hp increase when they have 26 hp is kind of a pointless waste of spent points. (fabulousfreep) You need to move the damage absorb for minions skill from the top of the skill tree to the bottom to make this play style viable. Pretty much any explosion that happens on screen is going to wipe out your entire fleet and force you to do nothing but re-summon ships non-stop. Make it 10 / 30 / 60 / 100 % damage absorb or something like that. * the Fighter Armor perk (in the Natural Flyers tree) that confers +% to Minion Max Health causes minions to spawn with less then maximum shield. Specifically, while max Shield, initial Structure and max Structure are augmented properly and the minion spawns with full structure, the initial Shield value is not augmented. Not 100% sure this is a bug or intended, but it sure is weird. (DysDaemoN) * Fighter DPS seems incorrect or at least quite low. I have to make some assumptions here because i am not entirely certain of the damage calculation. But to draw a comparison i have three similar-level parts (All require ~10 in their stat): - A (Heavy) fighter that has 12.7 DPS - A (Heavy) plasma cannon that has 36 DPS - A (Heavy) missile that has 19 DPS. I assume that damage is per fighter which would suggest about 36 DPS, but if so it seems to generally be weaker than expected. I've tested having a triplet of (level 7) fighters attack a level 5 target and what i found is this: - The damage per hit is generally 5-7. - There are more than a couple shots not doing damage due to misses. - The result is that the actual damage done is a factor lower than i would expect, and less than what comparable weapons would do. I believe some of the actual hit damage is lower due to the use of beam weapons. If i understand "BaseSkillDroxFighterBeam" in "MonsterSkills.gdb" correctly then a max-range hit will do about 40% of the maximum damage. A player using beam weapons can opt to attack at point-blank range for max damage or shoot at range for safety if needed. However, a fighter will just pathfind and fire whenever they are able to (Leading to a noticeable DPS loss for long-range attacks). Another factor that is odd is that the "ReuseTime" in the skill is 2.0, which indicates it can be fired every 2 seconds (Which seems to be correct when observing fighters in game). However if that were the case each fighter hit should do 25.4 damage (2x damage per second listed). Even at point-blank range fighters don't seem to do more than 10-11 damage or so, and this is more than i can explain by factoring damage loss due to resistances in. All these factors combined (Damage loss at range for beams, chance to miss, likelihood that the player is using lower level fighters due to not having found better ones) leads to a situation where fighters seem to do fairly little damage. * As a carrier lover, I have to make a suggestion - normally we just respawn damaged fighters when we have the energy, especially if combat is taking a toll on some of them. I fill like this encourages a reckless style of gameplay that doesn't fit a carrier type. Modules that do things like provide boosts to fighters and the like would be really neat. Perhaps the individual fighters could have a set of simple levels, say 1-5. They would gain experience the longer they stayed with you without dying or being replaced. It could be something as simple as a 10% boost to shields and damage per level, up to a realistic cap. Perhaps skills? integrated in some way that I could put skill? points into say... reduced AOE damage for fighters from my ship? (Cory Edwards) * higher quality fighters, with some skills boosting chance? (HoboElf) * components that enhance fighters (shields, HP regen, damage, resistances) (HoboElf) * Improved launching bays that reduces the cooldown/cost of launching fighters. (KevinC) * AI Command module that increases the max fighters of each module by +1. (KevinC) * Nanite fabricator that would repair launched fighters over time. (KevinC) * Munitions fabricators that would increase damage of fighters. (KevinC) * Swarm shields that provide shields to fighters as well as the mothership (albeit at reduced capacity over a typical shield of the same tier). (KevinC) * Another Idea to boost them would be to allow fighters to rank up from kills. - similar to the unit rank up mechanic attached to monsters (Jackrel) This would probably require a bit of doing as i was only able to get them to spawn as a higher rank at summon and never saw them score upgrades from kills when i was tooling with my test mod. But allowing them to upgrade, if at all possible would be a fun addition that would improve our currently generic fighters with better survivability the longer they stayed alive. I would say fighters may need their own rank presets though, as the generic monster ranks while being fun and amusing, get kind of broken and overpowered once you get a fighter of rare or higher rank. * Off the last note of fighters upgrading via kill, it would be nice if our angry little bees could persist through saves. As it stands now when i save and exit i lose my fighters the moment i load that save game. It would be nice to be able to keep my squadron in play between play sessions. This is honestly my last suggestion because I don't really know how much would need to go into this to change it as its not a thing weve been able to do in previous Soldak games. (Jackrel) if I treated them like NPCs might be able to save/load them * By enabling the percent chance on kill that they rank up, allowing them to rng roll up to the second or third rarity fighters would be more on par with what are still weak monsters but won't be outclassed by the simple common enemies. (Jackrel) * the other 3 are the same: summon a bunch of fighters that shoot little laser beams. Fighters and standard, interceptors shoot faster and raiders fly faster and have a larger summon capacity. But that's it. Not very exciting. (HoboElf) but the difference in speed values are so small that I don't notice them * Basic fighters don't feel terrible to me, they aren't all that impressive but they don't need to be since they are supposed to be deployed in volume, bombers could use an increase in damage per their current attack rate, and maybe set interceptors to target missles, and such that are targeting you or on a collision coarse with you as well as enemy fighters (Jackrel) But I do agree that some sort of additional buffs are needed. Even if it's something like a crew skill or ability * some kind of healing component is needed, but also something to buff their survi because healing doesn't mean jack if they get one shot anyway (HoboElf) * I feel fighters of all kinds would be better if they had something akin to the evasion stat from dl (Jackrel) Evasion, self repair out of combat... Or at the slightest the ability to deploy them all in 1 press * What if the skill were setup as a reserve ability, when enabled it keeps deploying fighters that are lost, and adds some sort of repair to fighters in an aoe around you? (Jackrel) * fighters (LotusBlade) - they can activate mines and die immediately, causing extra dmg to you by explosion; - requiring a lot of energy (200+ even early game, so you need energy boost); - have super weak dps against planets and constructs compared to any other weapon; * Calibrated squadron weapons - increases pet dps both damage and attack speed (Jackrel) * Was also toying with a wing leader skill for crew where you could deploy them as an attack craft that buffed other pets (Jackrel) * Oh, and I've got fighter pilot training - gives pets a chance to evade damage (Jackrel) * It would be great if the game saved launched fighters upon quit and reload. Especially with dedicated carrier builds resummoning the entire fleet each game load can be a pain. (Excellion) * Things like resistance to AoE damage, refueling and re-arming, better scaling, automated launch, hotkeys for orders and more orders in general. (Jean) * To me personally this (along with Command) is the most important thing I'd like to see get addressed at some point in Drox Operative 2: more build variety (some of the pet components are too similar, I'd like to see new ones with different sizes, support/utility components for pets) and better overall gameplay/usability for pet ship builds. (Hobo Elf) * pet builds are extremely barebones in Drox 1 & 2. There aren't many different kinds of pets, two of them are extremely similar (Interceptor and Fighter) and there are no components that you can use to manually buff or heal them for example. The only way you can help your pets is to use an EMP to debuff enemies. (HoboElf) * They should be able to go up in level if they survive long enough (i.e. they should gain xp). This gives you an incentive to keep them alive long-term. Of course, you have to also save them on quit or this is useless. (Bluddy) * fighters using some of the new weapons *Newbie friendly/better explanation* ------------------------------------ * If it ain't too much to ask, would it be possible to request an addition to the Full Help Topics menu? Something to summarize how Fighters work, particularly what benefits they get from the player's ship. Oh, and the default(current?) hotkey for ordering Fighters to focus on a target would be swell to have in there too. (Burden of Brine) * Ancients have extra relationship degradation with the player. That's good, it's a recognizable mechanic, the player can be aware that they are annoying to have a good relationship with and make strategic decisions accordingly. For the benefit of new players, this should be advertised in more text (the Rizak description doesn't say anything much to indicate this) and maybe also as an extra category in the Relation Breakdown screen. Right now the extra penalty seems to be showing up under Other, which doesn't help explain what's going on. (Eris Shrugged) *Command* --------- * this could even allow unlocking young, random races as playable races which would result in something like DC hybrid classes if did this each skill tree also specifies a attribute, at start get +5 of that attribute, and get +2 of that attribute per command? * add more skill descriptions *Planets* --------- * But someone mentioned troop transports, and I wondered "What if there was a quest to help a planet's health?" (Fulano) It could be a supply brought to the planet, or escorting a troop transport to strengthen the planet's health, something that requires more work so it's not as easy to pull off. Something that's more likely to trigger the lower the planet's health is and the fewer planets the race has, so it's a little easier to keep the weaker race alive. *Ships/character* ----------------- * Bug: Passive Minion Damage Bonus Not Applying When Moving to a New Sector. (The Grand Mugwump) I'm not sure if it's just the UI or the actual damage of the minion fighters. I noticed their displayed damage in my inventory was waaaaay lower than it should be. When I unequip and equip them, their damage numbers are back to what they are supposed to be. It was a bit surprising to see a level 24 fighter doing more damage than my level 33 interceptors until I figured out this was the issue. I also have both the passive trait for +20% minion damage and a crew member giving level 4 fighter training for +40% minion damage, so I don't know if that overlap is contributing or not. * The most important one is to check if the player has lost slots when their ship hull changes, and to remove items that are equipped in slots they lost. This is necessary so that the game responds correctly to downgrades or unequipping the ship (Hashashiyyin) * The second is that the game only seems to check to upgrade your hull when you gain Command from a skill by putting points into it (as opposed to gaining it from a passive on an item). I'm getting round this problem by letting the player "refresh" their hull after equipping a ship by putting points into a free dummy skill. However that's a pretty clunky solution, so it would be great if you could add a check for hull upgrades after gaining or losing a skill from equipping/unequipping an item. (Hashashiyyin) * would it be fun to be able to gain these passive bonuses with racial ships to give them a more distinctive feel? I think so! (HoboElf) my Drakk ship specializes in Helmsmanship because they are ace pilots. In game this translates to.. better defenses only? But what if I was able to unlock those Helms related passives that not only give me a big Defense boost, but also Thrust. Now that'd be something. I'd possibly have one component open since I need one less Drive thanks to the passive I have. gives me more ship building options * There is a passive system that rewards players with different Bonuses every 50 baseline Crew Points. This is in conflict with Command since the player needs to dedicate the majority of their Crew Points into it. Attaining these passive bonuses as of now is too punishing especially the higher tier ones. The highest tier requires a baseline of 250 stats. Attaining this is not reasonable and it makes the system feel pointless. (Hobo Elf) Investing into Command unlocks new tiers of ships and gives the player a +3 racial bonus to a Crew statistic, but this is not baseline, which means it does not contribute to the passive bonus system. Solutions: Make the Command stat +3 bonus baseline and/or make the bonus scaling that all races have (for example Brunt's 50% mult per Tactical point) a baseline stat multiplier instead. This gives the player more freedom to allocate their Crew Points into other statistics while not being punished for not putting most if not all points into Command. The goal here is to get more use out of the passive bonus system and increase the flavor of the different alien ships that Drox Operatives use by giving them easier access to said passive bonuses based on what they are specialized in. Unlocking passive bonuses (such as increased Defense and Thrust with the Helm stat) theoretically functions as a new passive component that does not need to be equipped or take up Power Load. What this can lead to is give the player more flexibility in kitting out their ship as they may not need that extra Thruster and can instead use an entirely different component in that slot instead. * Fair enough! In my head I was thinking that all stats should be multipliers as opposed to flat values, which I think Tactical behaves that way? That is, instead of 1 Computer -> 3 Attack (or whatever it is), each point of computer would add a percentage to your attack. So a higher Computer stat would buff your +200 attack computer to be a +280 attack computer, for example. A ship with high Engineering skill would get more mileage out of that Shield component, but every ship should be able to put on a shield or bolt some armor on. If you eased up stat requirements on components, this would allow any ship to equip that component and get some use out of it, just less use than someone who focused in that area and I think it would allow me to customize my build more than I can now. I haven’t thought it all the way through, though, just kickin’ around some ideas in my head. (KevinC) * That’s one side of my current issue with stat points. The other related point is that stats themselves only feel impactful to me in the sense that they allow me to equip better components, but the components seem to seriously overpower the stats. Take Computers for example, they add a small amount of Attack, right? A few points of Attack per point, I think? Meanwhile, even low-level computers can add +300-400 attack. So my investment in Computers didn’t feel impactful beyond just being able to equip the component itself. Or take Engineering, where it adds a small amount of energy/regen but nothing compared to a Battery or a Battery Recharger. I think this also contributes to my feeling that I’m just using crew stats as a way of equipping my next component upgrade. (KevinC) * The Bonus you get for every 50 base points in a stat also feel off for this reason. Take my Drakk ship, which gains Helm when it upgrades to the next class. These free Helm points do not contribute to the base and I think they should, because getting those free points means I don’t have to invest as many there to equip thrusters, I need them in Tactical or Engineering or something. I also likely have a racial crewman that is giving me that stat. So because I spend fewer points in the stats my race ship gets a bonus in, ironically those end up being the Bonus categories I’m furthest away from. (KevinC) *Combat* -------- * modify attack/defense a bit? 3 levels of hits - glancing (0.25x), normal, and critical (2x) attack/defense done like normal, if "miss" it's a glancing hit *Graphics/Effects* ------------------ * Any plans so windowed borderless wont deactivate HDR ? windowed lets my Color scheme stay HDR. but borderless seems to make windows HDR cut off making everything over saturated and jarring. (Sown-Laughter) * Graphic bug on the map when zooming in / out, black particles cover the designation on the map. With a strong distance, some of the planets are completely covered. https://imgur.com/a/FbeKjtG (Free Fa11) * ship models are kinda dark. sometimes hard to see when not moving (Smogg) * When viewed against a light background - such as a system's star - the beginning of the fog of war fade on the minimap shows some artifacting. Looks like the fade and the 100% alpha parts don't quite line up. (Low priority - purely visual) (Takarias) * Similarly, some pixels on the edges of the minimap do not darken, or even get brighter when the fog of war is removed. (Takarias) * Tried a Utopian ship, was immediately impressed by how much cooler the virus beam weapon looks compared to actual beam weapons. I think I suggest applying some of those effects to regular beam weapons, at least for player weapons; the argument would be that cool-looking effects many players don't see are wasted. (Eris Shrugged) * change shield impact effects to be more directional? * scale explosions based on victim size? * do lasers cause explosion on enemy when no shield and no death? * build up of laser at origin point * shield effect should scale to entity size? * make beams have more alpha the longer they are? * would be really cool to have lights on planets on the dark side that corresponds to tech level and population can I do planet lights? choose which one to use based on tech level & population and use inverse of star light on that pass (in fragment shader) * do we still need colorGen Planet ? * ss0113 background doesn't tile very well * Anti-matter fields and the lightning in nebulae flash distractingly when paused. (ScrObot) * I figured out what was haunting my fps. Was antialiasing. Seems it doesn't do anything but kill framerate (Jackrel) * There are some background tiling issues (ScrObot) https://www.scrobot.com/drox/DO2_.800_bg_tiling.jpg https://www.scrobot.com/drox/DO2_.800_bg_tiling_2.jpg https://www.scrobot.com/drox/DO2_.800_bg_tiling_3.jpg *Systems/Mechanics* ------------------- * For example, I would've guessed that better Radar will make the stealth enemies/races visible closer, the mines/traps that are hard to see more visible and such - but I have no idea if this is actually the case. (ZviHantsis) * ramming is strange on large objects like Eater of Worlds - need to increase radius probably * life leech should go to armor plating also? * Structure Needs Some Love (Mythos) When compared to the other stats, structure appears to be the most unappealing. Putting points into structure just give you more structure, which is a decent last line of defense but it's pretty hard to successfully build a tank around. The biggest issue is components take a durability hit. So builds like the Dryads that try to utilize structure are completely wasted. You COULD find all indestructible components and still structure tank, but that's virtually impossible while leveling and only plausible at end game. The other issue, is the bonus structure gives is an insignificant .25 armor and .5 structure regen. Something you will hardly notice at all. So how about just making the structure stat a bit more appealing overall? Here are some ideas (need not all apply), feel free to add your own: Make structure so each point also gives some flat armor Increase the armor and structure regen bonuses to something more significant. I don't think 1.0 armor and 2.0 structure would be all that game breaking. Add +resistances to the Mechanic skill unlock. This could be a flat +20 or % based. For Example +15 to thermal, explosion, radiation, em, ect or 10%. Percentages will scale much better into endgame. Add some kind of new component that slowly repairs the durability of your most damaged module(excluding armor modules). This would allow structure tanking to be more viable. I'd also maybe give it a secondary benefit that adds resistances that ONLY apply to structure. * Velocity inheritence - Needed for projectile weapons: Hey, a lot of 2d and 3d space combat games use velocity inheritence e as a mechanic because it feels good, fits the "space" setting well and fixes some gameplay problems. The gameplay problem it fixes is how you cant really play aggressive with projectile weapons right now, it's way better to just run away and shoot your projectiles behind you while you run. It's kinda boring. Just add the ship velocity to the projectile starting velocity and it will help a lot. (Torikhtil) * critical misses on things like ballistics? so a high defense is useful on everything? * Once again, I also feel the Soldak games need an option to scale the enemy level to your level. Basically if you start the world at a good level, it'll quickly become too easy in general, and the loot becomes boring as well, whereas if you put a higher level, you can easily be unable to beat it without some heavy cheesing, so it's also no fun. I'd rather keep the challenge and loot interesting all times, honestly. I've suggested said option on pretty much all games, and I can't dismiss the idea of scaling enemies to your level, or at least very close to it (so like a system would be your level -1, other your level +1, and so on). (Darkness) * So really. I guess my boredom with crew points is that your crew stats are all very focused on 1 specific thing: more damage, hit rating, health, energy... So I suppose that if your stats could play into encounters or otherwise... Actually. That is a fun idea. Say you scan a derrelect ship and it rolls against your stats to dictate the outcome with a little tidbit tossed into the message log dictating what happened. Or gasp, even having a sort of pop-up 4x event type window pop-up that gives you a list of things you can do based on your stats. Ie, find a drifting ship have the option to plunder it for stuff (tactical), steer it away from it's path that may crash it into a planet you are aligned with (helm), repair the engines so the crew can take it to port (engineering), seal a breach in it's hull (structure), find the flight recorder (computers) or order the survivors aboard your ship (command) So I suppose if certain random events were changed to be less common and had stat related things you could do it would add a level of additional purpose to having higher numbers in stats than just "I puts mah points into shootin real hard so they die real fast" or stat points= equip better stuff (Jackrel) * Yeah, I've noticed that the payments seem random. Like the weaker tribute race randomly contacts me to give me money, scavs never give me money and I don't notice my cash flow randomly increasing as if it's a background thing (Jackrel) * It'd be nice if regions dominated by a certain race had certain structures be more common (Sharp) So Humans could have space bars (pun intended) that boost happiness in the system * Maybe there could be a resort space station, where the population that successfully gets a cruise ship there gets a happiness boost (Sharp) * and mineable asteroid belts for the races to harvest for resources where they have to go back and forth between the asteroids and their planets to drop off the stuff they collect (HoboElf) Mining would actually be a fun idea to make the universe seem more alive, and i don't think it would be that big of a game change code wise. Just spawn asteroid fields in the sector (EG: based on the minable asteroids), and have planets send mining ships to them. Same concept as Freighters and Liners flying from planet to planet (Successful return of a miner would grant minerals to said race). (Excellion) * Since Drox 2 has so many new projectile weapons, Attack is now a far more useless stat, making Computers a generally bad investment. Defense is still useful because enemies use lasers. (Bluddy) * make diplomats objects, which can be dropped if diplomat ships are destroyed. let players rescue them or drop them off on another empire's planet so that the other empire gets credit for rescuing them. (Eris Shrugged) * allow buying technologies from empires (Eris Shrugged) * btw I also think every treaty between races should require a diplomatic mission (diplo ship) that could be attacked. (Bluddy) * capital planet? what happens if destroyed? chance of civil war, race split, or just a new capital somewhere? probably at minimum some penalty for losing capital and some kind of print - The ##1## capitol has been destroyed! * In the spirit of these things, I think it'd be really great if more actions were carried out in the game and could be prevented. For example, to create an alliance, 2 races/factions would have to meet somewhere first, and you could 'take these meetings out'. Planets would need constant supplies the higher their populations, and those supply ships could be intercepted. In Zombasite, the factions would need to collect potions, food and people, just like you, and denying them of these things would cause them to run low and starve. Colony ships are already sent in Drox, but you'd be notified of their destination ahead of time and therefore be able to stop them. * We need ways to take down (or at least severely weaken) large, runaway empires. The method I'm thinking of to allow for this is that after growing past 5 or 6 planets, a race would have to start specializing several planets, as it's now an empire. It should have a seat of government (capital, if destroyed, could cause tons of chaos, civil wars, etc). It needs to have a factory planet that can provide ships to other planets in large enough numbers. Of course, this complicates the AI somewhat, but hopefully not by too much. The key thing is that now, you can focus on a few choice planets to destroy to immobilize an empire rather than fighting an impossible fight against an empire that grows faster than you can destroy its planets. For example, if you take out the seat of government, the empire could fall into anarchy and split into different factions. If you take out the factory planet, ship production will stall everywhere. If you take out the food planets, the empire will starve, greatly weakening it. etc. * This one is a major change, but I think it would really improve the experience by making it feel more like the player is a space-spy: Make the races have larger fleets that are much more dangerous to tackle head-on, but have more of the individual pieces of their infrastructure represented by destroyable structures (shipyards, habitat domes, solar collectors, etc). * Instead of running out of energy and not being able to shoot: 1) Could have fast energy generation and time between shots would just get longer? 2) If get below certain amount (10 or 25%?), weapons would still work but shots are weaker? kind of like arrows and melee attacks in our fantasy games * Energy in general should feel very important and some thing you have to take care of, like say, if your weapons cost a lot of energy to use, you need to figure out a way to restore energy fast, be it Stacking energy regeneration, energy on kill, on hit, when it, when you use a non-combat item, when a crew member boards an enemy ship, ect. energy management should be a thing. not to where it slows down combat, but it needs to be vital to your survival. ---Note: In the Original Drox, you had to equip like 4 to 6 energy leech light components just to keep your energy up. this was not fun. please let that one be much better then it currently is, at least 3 to 4 times as strong, or make a legendary version or some thing, lol. * I would also really like to be able to buy or mine resources for the AI as well. There are many times they got stuck needing something and couldn't progress because they couldn't afford to send freighters or something to get that resource they needed. races could pay you to freight important materials around * I'd sort of suggested that a while back, attaching a afterburner skill to all thrusters that feeds off of a stamina bar (Jackrel) * need way for really bad young races to emerge - most powerful race with other win conditions * need way for young races to go extinct * make sure can spawn a random of the same covenant definition even if have unlocked it with another *Networking/Multiplayer* ------------------------ * I believe probes have a slight issue in multiplayer. When my friend uses his probes I do not get the updated fog of war they provide, thus partially defeating the point. I do not know if this is intentional or not. (ZuriZ) * Also, during multiplayer, one of my friends kept getting war declared on him for no reason by a random race on starting a new sector. (Varkon) * could create multiple sockets to work around buggy NATs that can't hole punch if multiple devices have the same local port * could send extra NAT punchthrough packets with low TTL to better open multiple layers of NAT int ttl = 3; setsockopt( socketHandle, IPPROTO_IP, IP_TTL, &ttl, sizeof(ttl) ); * could mask ip addresses in messages to make sure bad routers don't mess with it * be able to change a map on server without leaving game and booting other players * Can we please already get rid of the zoned servers? They're splitting up a small player base into even smaller player bases for very little good reason. Certainly players can play across the US with no serious latency, and if they're across the world, they'll either deal with it or switch to someone else. (Bluddy) * some way to pause game in multiplayer (if everyone pauses, game pauses?) *text/dialog* ------------- * primitive speech needs to be different, especially discovery (especially if your the first race to find them) * add dialog that is specific to a specific trait? * add dialog that is specific to lifeform type? * has changed from a Arctic to Dead planet - change to "changed from Arctic to Dead" * One thing that would help with making these traits seem real is if the races talked about each other. Freedom-oriented races would make comments that the slavery-based races bother them etc. Rather than just having background relations decrease due to differing traits, let us hear the races speak about each other and how they like/dislike their philosophies. (Bluddy) * The old races had the advantage that they had unique identities, which we came to know. The new races are random, and as such, it's much harder to care about them. I think it's important to emphasize the collection of traits they have so as to give them more personality. It would help if the races constantly had little blurbs to say. It's particularly useful when you're in the relation menu screen: let them say something (as if we clicked on the talk button with a ship). (Bluddy) *Crafting* ---------- * do we need a way to break components down to chips? *Rewards* --------- * For example, as a reward for the riot quest mentioned above, you get a few hundred experience, a few hundred dollars that is little more than repayment for what you spent, and some reputation with the race. In contrast, defending a race’s planet from attack, which requires merely sitting in place near it shooting at any enemies coming by, has offered me as much as 22,000 experience for far less work. Destroying X number of enemy monster ships also carries a similar reward to the fed-ex weapon delivery request, and is generally much easier as you simply fly around blowing enemies up as part of your travel activities anyway. * ancients are still rather powerful compared to other races, so increased rewards make sense, but maybe increase the loot or xp. personally, I would suggest making unique modules that only drop from ancient races. their descriptions hint at unique tech, so it would be great to actually have that show up in the game. (silver7017) * Maybe quests should always give item as rewards, and tell the item type. Like reward: Rare level 40 Heavy Ballistic Weapon. This way, checking each quest for its rewards would be a meta, rather then the type of quest only. I'd certainly do some boring quests to get useful rewards! (Darkness) *Skills* -------- * crew with Power Overload level 5 shows 0 - 0 Explosion damage (ZviHantsis) * As for the skills, I still think we need toggled skills for some things. Functionally, I mean skills that would work like the toggled aura abilities of Grim Dawn or Path of Exile where when toggled ON they have a constantly active effect, but they also "reserve" your mana / energy by decreasing your maximum amount permanently until they are deactivated. (BOYCOTT S-T-E-A-M!) So if you had 100 maximum energy and you toggled on two of these skills, one costing 15 and the other costing 25, then you your energy pool could only refill up to 60. A good candidate for a toggleable skill would be the fighters / bombers / interceptors. Reduce the energy cost since it would be a permanent drain while active. While toggled on your ship would naturally launch fighters to replace damaged ones with a cooldown period in between. When deactivated your fighters would return to your ship. Would store up "charges" whether on or off. So if it allowed a maximum of 4 fighters at a time it would be able to store up 4 charges so you could activate it and launch all 4 at once. Point defense weapons would be another good one. While toggled they would fire at hostile fighters and missiles on their own. (BOYCOTT S-T-E-A-M!) A reflective shield. While active it would absorb a portion of energy damage and increase its energy drain cost. When it is deactivated, either by choice or by having its energy drain increased beyond your energy maximum, it would fire off a beam at the nearest hostile for an amount of damage based on what was absorbed. (BOYCOTT S-T-E-A-M!) Afterburners. While active would increase your ships movement speed. Energy drain would start low but increase the longer you use them. (BOYCOTT S-T-E-A-M!) Weapons amplifier. A toggle skill that would decrease your shields while increasing the damage and fire rate of your weapons. (BOYCOTT S-T-E-A-M!) * I think the skills could use a little flare to make them just a bit more interesting beside % increases, but it's still a step in the right direction. Maybe a final interesting bonus for each one when you reach max rank? For example the final rank of minion damage might also add 40% minion speed when it gets a kill. Or the final rank of minion life steal transfers some of that stolen lifesteal to your primary ship. The final rank of Launcher skill could increase launcher hp or give them evasion from being shot down. Minion health could allow ancient recharge stations to work on fighters and allow boosters to partially work on fights. There is a lot of need things you could do here. (Mythos) * The tooltip for the Stalker skill displays "-5% Escape Notice (Passive)". -5% escape notice seems like a penalty, not a bonus (Eris Shrugged) * There is not a ton of synergy between the Stealth tree offering bonus points in Computers and the skills in it relating to projectiles and mines. (Eris Shrugged) * The 'Bonuses' could be removed and/or improved too with more unique abilities. For example: (Destro) Structure Tree 50 = 1% armor/structure repair, 100 = 10% structure as bonus armor, 150 structure = 10% structure as bonus energy shield and proportional energy shield regen, 200 structure = 20% chance to take half damage from all sources or bonus resistances to damage types (explosive, em, etc.) 250 structure = Structure protects components the same way as armor. Or, your ship always has an escape pod. Or, your escape pods are majorly better in some way. *Optimization* -------------- * In the "performance" side could we have a way to deal with the multi-layered backgrounds? The game is surprisingly running smoothly in my PC without 3d graphic card, EXCEPT when the background get too heavy (nebulosas are beautyfull, but they do make the game slow down a lot). (Schaten) * Game became nearly unplayable suddenly (FDru) I think it had something to do with an event called "coordinated attack" (or something like that). Even just flying around the system with no enemies nearby, the game freezes completely every few seconds (except for the sound and mouse cursor) and would freeze up for sometimes 20-30 seconds when near a planet that is being attacked. edit: I guess the event was "Vulnerable Systems". Also, the freezing (and enemy spawning) completely stopped as soon as I got sector victory. * Game get unplayable due to low framerate EVERY SINGLE TIME an ancient ship destroy a race and occupy the planet (FicusCat) * not exactly a bug, but a strange thing ive noticed regarding the performance impact of ship explosions: it seems to become worse the more lengthy the game session is. i was running away from a bee line of monsterships while shooting at them, and each explosion would drop the fps to a single digit. however, upon restarting the game and continuing from there, the explosions would have no noticeable fps impact. at least for a while. (DysDaemoN) * don't call Emitter::updatePosition if !shouldDrawEffects and _particles.empty() ? * Precaching run * Heavy Stuttering / Freeze With Explosion (kouhei) There seems to be a lot of stuttering every time a lot o ships appear on my screen, while it was there in Drox 1, it was not as noticeable. This is especially true whens hip collide or explode when defeated. I'm running on Win 10 PRO on a GTX 2050 4GB and i5 CPU with 16GB ram, I tried messing with settings but the slow down appear constantly and it make playing nauseous. All I can think of is explosion effects or ship collide when a bunch of ships appear on screen, I suspect something along the lines of Pixel collision dropping frame when it happens. It is quite noticeable. * Added to Bug#6 : Performance overall seems to be really lacking in Drox 2 compare to Drox 1. (kouhei) * what is causing hitches? * can use timings stuff (profile) to track down hithes partially at least * could add some timing stuff if spend more than 2 ms on any entity think break or print entnum (#ifdef so not always there but can use later) * Bad Lag Even On LAN and FPS Dips (Mythos) When playing this game with my wife over LAN there is a lot of stuttering and blinking around when there are more than a few enemies. There more enemies there are the worse the stuttering gets. It's like not enough data is being transmitted. I've doubled the multiplayer data settings but it seems to have no effect. * Also, when there are a lot of explosions my game goes from 144 fps - sub 30. I have a 7700k cpu and a 1080 ti so it's not like my hardware isn't up to the task. It's not like this game is super graphically intensive. I suspect it still needs to be optimized. (Mythos) * Stuttering is a major issues in Drox 2 compare to Drox 1, evertime a bunch of ships die or appear on screen there is a massive FPS drop, this is true even on high-end PC and is consistent throughout a game sessions. This is even worst when using AOE weapons such as bombs on a group of 10+ ships. (kouhei) *Sound* ------- * Considering they are emitted by your ship in the dead center of the screen, player weapon audio is hyper directional. (Takarias) * discovered race needs a sound *Win/Loss* ---------- * Win condition similar to diplomacy, where if a player makes all remaining races vassels or tributary (Similar to fear). Might need something more ontop of it, or a lesser reward as it is currently much easier to do. Currently if you make everyone a vassal you almost completely stop getting quests, and races stop fighting, making the whole sector completely null (Albeit very peaceful). It's a funny way to essentially halt your own progress though. (AlCool) * Personally, I feel the game needs a way to control better the Fear index. I mean, when you're getting near a Legend win and you want to reduce legend points, you can just destroy some faction ships, but that greatly increases your fear, and very few things reduce your fear, nothing you can do easily and without limits. So, I propose killing off enemy ships near a faction planet (that thing that renders reputation) to also lower your fear, for example. This way, we'd be able to easily keep fear and legend points lower, to seek the other wins we desire. (Darkness) * The new win condition seems okay so far. It might help to have one or even multiple Drox guild quests available at the start of the sector, so that the player has the ability to make an assessment of whether they want to aim for a guild win. (Eris Shrugged) * new Drox quests earn X amount of credits * Easy guild quests (2 VPs) (Bluddy) - Explore 30 planets in X minutes. - Finish 20 quests in X minutes. *Other* ------- * I don't understand if it's a bug or a feature: you can move sold component to "Held" and then gamble with it. If it's a feature, it's a bit annoying to move it every time. (Sent Ernit) * Late game (only three races left, all are tech ~30 ish) system randomly lost its tech marker for trade goods. Entire (7+ planets) system reset to as if I was level 1: https://i.imgur.com/IZAQ7N1.jpg Easiest visual is the cargo bay there - size: tiny. Affected all planets. (Boink) * Would it make sense to give the Structural stat a bonus to ramming? I noticed the notes had a question in there about how viable a Structural-focused build was.. (Eris Shrugged) * A traveling vendor may sell you a beacon to call them? (Verdusk) * I'd also love to have an option from Zombasite back: get an "ally" from a faction. It was an amazing way to increase reputation with that faction easily and in a fun way and aim for Military Wins. (Darkness) * Furthermore, if you could get an ally from two different factions, and it could be used to boost their relations while you had the work to keep them alive, it'd be a much nicer way to trigger Diplomatic wins. (Darkness) * races can put down mining stations on planets, moon, big asteroids * more visible structures? - listening stations, mining stations, etc * other lesser bug just happened (I've seen it a few times though): (Darkness) Brunt was attacking planet Tria from race Hall, I was nearby. I declared war Hall, attacked Tria Message log says I destroyed the colony Following message said Brunt destroyed Hall and took the spoils. * cursor doesn't work on 144hz monitor (Qrusher14242) well thats weird, none of the Soldak games are showing a mouse cursor. tried Din's legacy and Drox 1. Haven't seen this issue with any other games. Not sure if its because of my new 144hz monitor or what (Qrusher) Solved it, was running at 100hz, once i changed it to 144 it shows up now (only fixed for a little bit) * also, where are the random levers from the fantasy games?) (Bluddy) * leveling up at the start of a sector is very quick as there are many quests including the very lucrative go kill X bad guy. However after all those have been done generally whats left are just repeating buy X item at Y planet to deliver to Z world. Can we get some ongoing variety of quests? (Annex) * an option to play a sector where treaties and so on are already in place and your goal is to more or less destabilize and alter the power flow" (Jackrel again) (Eris Shrugged) * Bug: Stealth Enemies (Djozar) Enemies flying around in stealth aren't becoming visible at times when near to them. If they do appear, it's only for a brief second then it nearly takes colliding with them to kill them, as you can't target them. Maybe give them 3 seconds uncloaked before they go back to stealth. Currently, you can see the red light showing they are an elite, and MAYBE the outline of the ship, but only for a very brief second. * If both Race A and I are at war with Race B, Race B shouldn't be sending me messages telling me not to trade with Race A. (ScrObot) * workshop support would be nice * An approach I would have liked more is to have gradually unlocking narrative quests for the main races telling their stories. So in games when you ally with the Cortex, you start unlocking their 'main quest line'. (Bluddy) It's a way to sprinkle more personality into the random universe. * should I ever explain where the monsters came from? * Collision damage seems inconsistent and I suspect a bug where sometime colliding with a ship will trigger MANY collision damage resulting in MASSIVE damage. Overall Collision damage seems to cause WAY too much damage compare to everything else in the game, this isn't helped by the fact some Enemy ship can move at ridiculous amounts of speed bypass the speed of max thruster + thruster bosster and just ram you to death in matters of milliseconds. This doesn't occur often but when it does it really make you feel hopeless. (kouhei) * need to update patreon stuff for Drox 2 * achievement on ram kills - if killed after attack in handleShipCollision add to ram kills stat * add challenges? challenge sectors could have specific win conditions turned off or drox involvement could only show up in those? * test_allQuests - lots of stuff fail (does it matter?) * formations don't work * be able to change extra energy focus to weapons, shields, engines, etc? do this with the mouse wheel or tab? * https://i.imgur.com/owSiiRx.png - unexplored planet with a known empire on it. which I'm at war with, by the way. That probably shouldn't be possible. (Eris Shrugged) *Cataclysms* ----------- *Crashes* --------- * Had my first CTD (thankfully not a lock) - game dumped when using two (2) marines on teleporting spiral do-dars spiroc caster (the black crescent types, level 28-32ish). Sadly log doesn't have error msg in it. From the flashes I saw of the mob (hard to keep a lock on those ones, esp. with multiples around the screen) both marines were on the same ship at the crash. (Boink) * game sometimes crashes when destroying an enemy ship with marines (just like in drox 1) (Smogg) * I'm having an error where it crashes to desktop on Linux when I sort my items by value... any fixes? (Aly (Hypergardens)) * add a stress command that spawns in objects and uses them? *Monsters/AI* ------------- * hammerhead fighters *Fixed, add to credits* ----------------------- * I just spent over an hour fixing my allies planets with unrest type effects, and 5 minutes later they are all rebelling or worse again. Please add a lockdown timer to these type effects so they cannot happen so often, and/or make the success rate for races like Shadow much lower. (Carnage) * War fatigue. After being at war for a long time, assuming sufficient losses are incurred, an AI should sue for peace. It could offer to trade money or even a few planets if necessary. (already there but needs to be better) (Bluddy) * Suing for peace. A race that's incurring heavy losses should sue for peace at all costs, begging for mercy, and perhaps offering to become a vassal/tributary. (In fact, this is one of the few situations that should allow for these kinds of arrangements IMO -- doing it randomly feels weird). (Bluddy) * The text on the map should be made to fit better. (Bluddy) * The fog of war effect in the map could look much better (animated fog shader of some sort). (Bluddy) * mousing over name of system above minimap can show that there's a quest in that system to colonize for that race, but when talking to that race there is no such quest found (for any system) (Annex) * Tooltip on the black hole says that black holes do not have any planets (Xrayfk05 (Joost)) do they ever have any? *New* ----- * I got 2 quests to explore non-existent planets (peter.sugarek) * XP debt is too high at late game! (lechuck1) * [BUG 0.844] Destroying a planet leads to binded ships to become non-violent As the title said. The player still can attack them but they won't fight back and your fighters won't attack them. (phoagne) * counterespionage mission for spies? * only have rebels/quests for mature races * make sure rebel ships aren't destroyed * quest items can still show up on the planet that needs it? * would be really cool if ship on map where you knew the destination would show you path * Quest stations and boarding (phoagne) I haven't played the game for a while and returned recently. Ones of the new things are various nexuses. They look and act like space stations. And we have quest stations: listening posts, gates, various devices etc. Nexuses can be boarded but quest stations can't - "Can't board non-ship enemies". Is therel any reason to keep it that way? * when a race ship is destroyed some times leave a derelict ship chest * is this right? - ambientPercent *= lightingSystem->getPlanetLightAmbientMult(); * do I still need this? - _renderingState->setProgramEnvParameter4fv( GL_VERTEX_PROGRAM_ARB, PROGRAM_REGISTER_VERTEX_SCALE, scaleMult ); * mouse at edge of screen should scroll map around? * stars on galaxy map - all 2d so going to be tricky, no mapblips if can get correct position to draw just need add and then draw it int32 WorldMap::addMapEntity( MapBlip& mapBlip ) void WorldMap::drawMapEntity( MapBlip* mapBlip, float32 timeElapsed ) * separate being used into system and sector? - so don't free wrong things * MP using already existing galaxies (phoagne) Started today a game with a friend, created new characters, created a new galaxie and a sector. Got a quick win. Created a new sector using our galaxy - and we got a lot of activated gates in the new sector somehow. Did it second time - also got activated gates in the nest new sector. As it doesn't happen in the singleplayer I guess it's not intended. * change special resources to give bonus to specific planet also, especially something that showed up in planet stats * attack ships say waiting for attack orders when attacking ships next to a planet * after killing ships near a planet, attack orders changed to a different planet * maybe would highlighting planet knowledge in trade screen show data from that race's perspective * be able to show a planet from a specific race's perspective on planet screen * if have race selected on planet screen, be nice to show whether they know about planet or not * if keep new info when near planet, will need to change planet status button * Smuggling Ring karma - don't see any quests for specified race * send over last planet knowledge time and color code each field as green (up to date), yellow (recent, more than 5 minutes), red (old info, > 30 minutes) probably need an option to turn this off * giant pod is huge on map - MonsterQuestWeatherGiantPod * random worm holes always show up on world map * add an achievement of raising protectorate primitives to space fairing * could make jumping to a jump gate controlled by enemies cheaper if you have spies * harvesters beam battery label shows up a ton of times on system map (QBob) * harvesters beam battery shows up a ton of times on planets screen (QBob) * giant ! on map for some reason (might be over primitive planet) * Would it be possible to add an “undo” button to this screen so I could back out of something before closing the window? (KevinC) * If not, something that irritates me is that the game frequently changes what hotkey slots those are in! I want it set up a certain way, so that the same hotkey is always repair, always shield, etc. I don’t know exactly what triggers it, but the game shuffles around those hotbar slots frequently. It might be when dying perhaps? Anyway, I’ve died several times because I hit what I expect to be my thruster boost or repair and instead get energy regen or something! And to clarify: I am not moving them around in my inventory. (KevinC) * on planet data for a specific race take into account traits like RaceTraitIndustrial - CovMultMineralsProduced 1.5 * should update planet data the instant that the final scan is done * Maybe I'm not understanding the skill correctly, but after unlocking a level in Fighter Siphon I'm not sure if it's working. I believe the skill makes it so that Minions repair n% when they hit? I've watched my minions in combat and I haven't noticed repair happening when they've landed hits, either when watching structure or shields. Not sure if it works on just structure but either way I didn't notice repair on hit, although I notice a very slow structure regen outside of combat. I might be misunderstanding how this skill works but if not I am curious if it is bugged or is working and I just wasn't able to see it? (goodgimp) * So lately there I encounter situations where it's difficult to clearly see what is happening in the diplomacy/relation screen. I would suggest that when the mouse cursor is hovering above a certain race, the rest of them are grayed-out and only the selected race and their relations are seen/emphasized, everything else is in the background. (ZviHantsis) * [0.900] Decreased perfomance? (phoagne) Is it just me or after the last update the late game is kinda laggy? I've died few times in "time skipping" lags. Never happened before. Nothing in my PC is overworked or underperforming. upd. Started new sector and everything is smooth. upd2. After discovering few races and sectors any event with chat a notification causes a lag spike. * With the recent change to some perks making it harder to use rumors or spies to increase/decrease relationship between races the diplomatic win is quite harder to achieve. Unless you'll cultivate a galaxy full of xenophiles. Maybe add option to ask other races to influence their allies? Also was I not looking close enough or a common enemy doesn't unite races who fight them? We do have the "Sponsor Diplomatic Ship" option but it's not like it much reliable (especially if they have to travel far distances and could be killed - and it's hard to escort them because THEY ARE SOOO SLOOOOW). Also would this work if two races at war? Did I miss them not attacking civilian ships or what? Maybe a quest to transport diplomats on your ship would resolve both issues? (phoagne)
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Yeah..... good luck completing all of that! O.O (no sarcasm intended)
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Holy cow, quite the list. Excited to see what on here shakes out and gets implemented. A lot of good ideas here.
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I just updated the todo. The main changes are in the command section (near the top), all of the skill sections after the command section, and lots of additions to the new section at the end.
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Impressive list, thanks for sharing.
My quick-wish would be inventory sorting, but i guess everyone quick-wish is different.
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I updated the todo again. The main changes are in the skill sections after the command section and lots of additions to the new section at the end.
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Would be nice to have a Hacking skill tree (mostly Utopian but also possibly Fringe, Scavenger), as there's a lot of potential there, especially for rewiring stuff like bases, mines, and Legion ships to be on your side.
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I'm concerned about the generic tree skills. The idea is supposed to be that every race ship plays differently due to these skill trees. The generic skill tree plays against that, causing uniformity. Now, every special skill needs to compete against the generic skills, and if they're not good enough, effectively we end up in the same place, where there's an optimal generic way to build the ships.
I would prefer if the generic tree was scrapped, or the skills were moved into the race-specific trees. It's very important that the races play differently - the more different, the better - and I don't think we need any more encouragement for sameness -- that part comes from the item system. |
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Yeah, I'm trying to find a balance between making each race pretty unique, not locking the player into a specific build per race, and hopefully eventually allow players to pick young races with whatever their random skill trees are.
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In terms of build per race, moving the weapon-boosting skills into specific trees doesn't necessarily cancel out other possible builds, and they're optional after all -- the trees include enough other skill options to make those available. I feel like all these generic skills would belong better in the themed skill trees. This is especially true if the skills don't give a huge boost, but a fairly minor one instead (10%-15%). I figured there was some kind of plan to make young races playable given the property-based skill trees, but what does that mean effectively? You'd be able to choose among every random race created so far when creating a new ship? |
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